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Posted By : RHFay - 6/15/2008 1:54 PM

Okay, I know rejections are a part of a writer's experience, and maybe I've been spoiled by my recent string of acceptances, but the timing on this one stinks. I just got a rejection in my e-mail for a speculative poem that I truly believe is one of my stronger pieces. This makes the eighth rejection for this particular poem. I revised it once after receiving some helpful editorial comments with the first rejection, and I was sure I fixed any glaring flaws in the work.

The problems finding this poem a home have me scratching my head. It makes me question my own judgment when it comes to viewing the apparent quality of my work.  It also makes me wonder if the "ethereal/astral" subject matter is really working, although I have had similar pieces published already.

Some Father's Day present, huh?  I guess it's time to find another market to send this one to and hope the ninth time's the charm!

At least I have some nice plans for the rest of the day. My wife, daughter, and I plan to play some games today, and then I'm going to make a nice dinner. We're going to have steamed fresh asparagus, melon, and a nice specialty bread.  I even got myself some lobster tails, which is a special treat for me. No one else in the house likes lobster, except perhaps the cats and the dog.

I guess I really shouldn't let a little thing like a rejection on Father's Day get me down.  It's just one of those things, you know?


"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" 
 
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions 

Posted By : Ramon Rozas - 6/15/2008 3:15 PM
Mr. Fay - Happy Father's Day! I feel your pain; I have a short story that I personally consider my best one; it even won an "Honorable Mention" in a fairly big contest. It has been rejected FOURTEEN TIMES. This business baffles me sometimes.

Oh - and enjoy your lobster tails!

Posted By : RHFay - 6/15/2008 6:31 PM
Eek!  Mr. Fay? Gosh, that makes me sound old. Please, Richard or RH is fine.
 
I have a similar story with a piece of fiction I entered in the Writers of the Future contest. Actually, it started life as a Doctor Who story for a contest put on by Big Finish. It failed to get anywhere in the DW contest, so I reworked it sans the Doctor and sent it to WOTF. I received a letter stating that the story finished in the top 15% of the stories that quarter, the lowest degree of "honorable mention" given in that contest.
 
Filled with hope that the story might actually be publishable, I sent it out again.  And again.  And again.  And again.  After a handful of rejections, I decided to read it at the local fiction writer's group meeting, to get feedback.
 
Frankly, I was a bit surprised by the feedback I received.  Apparently, even though the story is fairly well written, I may have some plot issues I have to iron out.  And I also seem to have too long a lead up to the main action, and possibly too many POVs.
 
Yes, it truly is a baffling business. 


"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" 
 
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions 

Posted By : Jordan Lapp - 6/16/2008 6:22 PM
KD Wentworth has said a bunch of times that HMs in WotF means that the story had at least one good thing going for it (plot, character, theme, etc...). So placing as HM is no indication that you have a winner on your hands.

I place as HM or higher every single time I enter (8 times now?) and I'm not exactly racking up the pro credits.


Jordan Lapp
Managing Editor

Posted By : crystalwizard - 6/16/2008 7:08 PM
Jordan Lapp said...
KD Wentworth has said a bunch of times that HMs in WotF means that the story had at least one good thing going for it (plot, character, theme, etc...). So placing as HM is no indication that you have a winner on your hands.

I place as HM or higher every single time I enter (8 times now?) and I'm not exactly racking up the pro credits.


But you are racking up the marketing credits for just about anything you publish.

Posted By : Jordan Lapp - 6/16/2008 7:13 PM
I don't use WotF as a credit. Top 300 out of new writers isn't something I'm super proud of. I sometimes mention the Semi-Finalists. ;)


Jordan Lapp
Managing Editor

Posted By : RHFay - 6/16/2008 8:44 PM
Jordan Lapp said...
So placing as HM is no indication that you have a winner on your hands.

I realize that now, but I thought it was pretty exciting when it happened. I am no longer as naive about the writing business as I once was.
 
Besides, I had my reasons for switching to poetry for a while. I think I made the right decision.;-)
 
Still, it remains a baffling business full of uncertainties.


"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" 
 
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions 

Posted By : RHFay - 6/16/2008 8:47 PM
Jordan Lapp said...
Top 300 out of new writers isn't something I'm super proud of...
I wonder where I would rank among new speculative poets, if that was something you could actually rank.
 
Just wondering aloud.


"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" 
 
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions 

Posted By : crystalwizard - 6/17/2008 1:03 AM
Jordan Lapp said...
I don't use WotF as a credit. Top 300 out of new writers isn't something I'm super proud of. I sometimes mention the Semi-Finalists. ;)


we're talking marketing him, jordan. Not bragging rights.

Posted By : Jordan Lapp - 6/17/2008 10:15 AM
Sorry, CW, I guess I misinterpreted what you said. Yup, Richard sure is getting his name out there!


Jordan Lapp
Managing Editor

Posted By : Rob Santa - 6/17/2008 10:23 AM
If it means anything, "I got "rejected" on Father's Day, too. :-)



Rob Santa
Hopelessly Addicted Writer of Speculative Fiction
and CEO of Ricasso Press


Posted By : RHFay - 6/17/2008 11:24 AM
Rob Santa said...
If it means anything, "I got "rejected" on Father's Day, too. :-)

At least I know I'm not alone in my pain.smilewinkgrin
 
And, at least I can share my gripes with others, even if they are minor, petty gripes.  Which, truly, this one is. 


"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" 
 
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions 

Posted By : RHFay - 6/17/2008 11:34 AM
Jordan Lapp said...
...Yup, Richard sure is getting his name out there!

I'm tryin'!roll (Let the roll go on.)
 
Just recently I gained a whole bunch of new friends on Live Journal, and a fan or two, too. Fans are nice. Fans are real nice. And I wouldn't have fans if my poetry wasn't published in the first place.
 
My goodness, I have FANS!!!shocked
 
For being a hopeless introvert in "real life", I've made quite an incredible number of connections on-line. I've grabbed the self-promotion bull by the horns and won't let go!
 
Mooooooo!hop
 


"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" 
 
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions 

Posted By : Chaos, Perpetual - 6/18/2008 10:27 AM
RHFay said...
 
And, at least I can share my gripes with others, even if they are minor, petty gripes.  Which, truly, this one is. 
 Well, you can always finish celebrating that particular Father's Day after the acceptance comes rolling in on a random Tuesday.


-TBS
 

Posted By : Thirdy Lopez - 6/18/2008 9:21 PM
Hi, Richard. I can relate. Once, one of my stories was rejected by an editor. I opened my inbox and got three rejection letters from the same editor. I guess it was his way of saying "No, no, NO!" Ha ha.

I think as a writer, we are our own worst critiques. Sometimes, what we think is good, isn't. Most of the time, though, it's just a matter of finding the right market.

Good luck with placing the poem. To quote The Waterboy... "You can do it!"

- Thirdy


Aurelio Rico Lopez III aka "Thirdy" has had fiction featured in COLD FLESH (Hellbound Books), THE BLACKEST DEATH I, II, and III (Black Death Books), SPORTY SPEC: GAMES OF THE FANTASTIC (Raven Electrick Ink), STAR-SPANGLED ZOMBIE (Maniac Press), RAW MEAT (Sideshow Press), SHADOW BOX (Brimstone Press), TRIP THE LIGHT HORRIFIC (RAGE machine Books), DEAD MEN (AND WOMEN) WALKING (Bards and Sages), and THE BOOK OF SHADOWS VOL. I (Brimstone Press).  His poems have appeared in Mythic Delirium, Star*Line, Dark Animus, Goblin Fruit, Scifaikuest, Electric Velocipede, Sybil's Garage, The Horror Express, Down In the Cellar, and elsewhere.


Posted By : Thirdy Lopez - 6/18/2008 9:28 PM
...and didn't Harry Potter get its share of rejections before finding a home? ;)


Aurelio Rico Lopez III aka "Thirdy" has had fiction featured in COLD FLESH (Hellbound Books), THE BLACKEST DEATH I, II, and III (Black Death Books), SPORTY SPEC: GAMES OF THE FANTASTIC (Raven Electrick Ink), STAR-SPANGLED ZOMBIE (Maniac Press), RAW MEAT (Sideshow Press), SHADOW BOX (Brimstone Press), TRIP THE LIGHT HORRIFIC (RAGE machine Books), DEAD MEN (AND WOMEN) WALKING (Bards and Sages), and THE BOOK OF SHADOWS VOL. I (Brimstone Press).  His poems have appeared in Mythic Delirium, Star*Line, Dark Animus, Goblin Fruit, Scifaikuest, Electric Velocipede, Sybil's Garage, The Horror Express, Down In the Cellar, and elsewhere.