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Posted By : tchernabyelo - 4/10/2008 1:14 PM
At least, I think so. 
 
"At this time, however, I am not issuing full purchase contracts due to
cash flow restrictions pending our May premier release.  What I can 
offer is a $20 option purchase to hold the story for 28 days, the $20 
counting against the eventual contract purchase price"
 
First time I've come across this approach - I'm used to payments coming after publication (in some cases, a while after).
 
But so far as I can see, it's a sale.   Time to go edit that sig again...


Brian Dolton
 
Yi Qin stories:
"The Box Of Beautiful Things" - IGMS#3
"The Man Who Was Never Afraid" - Abyss and Apex #20
"At Blue Crane Falls" - Abyss and Apex #25
"Where No Wind Blows" - Staffs & Starships #2
"What The Sea Refuses" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"What The Heart Bears" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"Above The Clouds" - Paper Blossoms, Sharpened Steel (forthcoming)
 
Other Land Of Wind And Ghosts stories:
"The Dragon Path" - Fictitious Force (forthcoming)
"Three Out Of Four" - Sorcerous Signals Feb-Apr 08 
 
Stories in other settings:
"The Unicorn Hunter" - OG's Speculative Fiction #8
"Call Centre" - Necrotic Tissue #1
"When Winter Came" - ASIM #32
"Cold Fire" - Flashing Swords #9
"St. Saviour And The Devil's Dandy" - Flashing Swords (forthcoming)


Posted By : anna - 4/10/2008 1:33 PM
Congrats!

Posted By : Hamstersbane - 4/10/2008 2:22 PM
Congrats! At least, I think so. ;)


Jeff Parish
Jennings Grove, an online horror serial novel

Posted By : Jason T - 4/10/2008 2:27 PM
I can offer you parital congratulations at this time, with the possibility of full congratulations at some future point.  Still...sounds like a sale to me.


Jason Thummel
 
"A Stand in the Eye of the Needle" Flashing Swords, May 2008
"Mortismagus" in Magic and Mechanica, Ricasso Press Forthcoming 2008
"The Homecoming of Brother Antonitus" Flashing Swords May 2009


Posted By : HTKuehl - 4/10/2008 2:46 PM
Con.....grats!


 
**~**~Heather~**~**
 
"Learn to paint pictures with words." ~ Brian Jacques
 
"I never considered that I wouldn't make it. Ignorance is bliss sometimes. If I had known how hard it would be, I might have given up." ~ Kim Harrison
 
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Forthcoming: 
"Wayward Magic" and "Tone Deaf." Strange Worlds of Lunacy: The Galaxy's Silliest Anthology, April 2008.
"Full Moon Pulls at Him." Aphelion Webzine, April 2008.
"The Magic Word." Flashshot, April 17, 2008.
"Blythe's Vengeance." Fantasy Gazetteer, May 2008.
"Raising the Dead." Bewildering Stories: Issue 288, May 5, 2008.
"To Have and to Hold." Flashshot, May 10, 2008.
"The Final Goodbye." Ruins Metropolis. Hadley Rille Books, 2008.
"Dalamar's Quest." Flashing Swords, February 2009.
 


Posted By : RHFay - 4/10/2008 3:03 PM
Congrats...maybe...I think....I guess...

Aw shoot - congrats regardless!


"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" 
 
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions 

Posted By : C.L. - 4/10/2008 3:30 PM
Congrats!


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Posted By : Gustavo - 4/10/2008 4:52 PM
Hey, I'm part of that May issue, so I certainly hope the initial money is getting used to pay for our stories!!

Anyway, congratulations - definitely sounds like a sale to me.


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Posted By : Lyn - 4/10/2008 9:18 PM
Your next sub to them can be half a story with the rest upon acceptance! lol Congrats!


Lyn from ResAliens
Own a copy of Strange Worlds of Lunacy - Galaxy's Silliest Antho today!


Posted By : Firlefanz - 4/12/2008 4:00 PM
Semi-congrats!

;-)


- Call me Firle.

Hannah Steenbock

Mystical Adventures
Sphaira

"Die arische Frau" in Pandaimonion - Die Formel des Lebens
"Der Weg nach Eridani" in Earth Rocks 3/2007 (pdf)
"Minkus, the Masterful Magic-Mender" in - AlienSkin Magazine, Featured Fiction


Posted By : Darwin - 4/14/2008 2:53 PM
tchernabyelo said...
At least, I think so. 
 
"At this time, however, I am not issuing full purchase contracts due to
cash flow restrictions pending our May premier release.  What I can 
offer is a $20 option purchase to hold the story for 28 days, the $20 
counting against the eventual contract purchase price"
 
First time I've come across this approach - I'm used to payments coming after publication (in some cases, a while after).
 
But so far as I can see, it's a sale.   Time to go edit that sig again...

Call it a committment.
 
There are some things in the "way business is done" in genre periodicals that give me the heebie jeebies.  One of them would be to leave people hanging in slush much more than a month.  The other would be asking people to "wait" for a contract until my cash flow catches up with my desire to acquire.
 
My goal with Evolutions is to treat people fairly and up front.  If I've got a cash flow issue (which I do as a result of pre-buying 3 issues worth of fiction, and yes, Gustavo, that means you get paid first before I buy any of the stories I'm picking up options on), and I run across some new items in the slush that I really want to include, then it seems to me that the fair thing to do is tell the truth and then offer people an an easier to swallow (for me) "option" payment to hold their stories until my cash flow allows me to purchase the story.
 
What that "option" payment represents is a decision on my part to purchase the story publication rights as soon as the cash comes in to cover the marker.  As a good faith point, I make it clear that if I fail to come up with the cash after 28 days, the author gets to take their ball and go play elsewhere if they so choose with no hard feelings on my part and a $20 "thank you for giving me a chance" payout in their pocket.
 
Frankly, in the world which I've cut my teeth on (which is Tekno anthologies), my contracts always came with a check no matter what lag occurred between purchase and publication.  Because of the virtual nature of Evolutions, I can't really do that.  However, my goal is to get money to the authors as soon after they've returned the contract as possible.
 
I'm not going to ask anyone to wait until publication to be paid.  That simply conflicts with my internal "professionalism" gauge.  The "options" payout is a direct reflection of that policy when viewed in the context of cash flow pending release of our first issue on May 30, 2008.
 
Sorry for the drawn out answer.  I just want everyone to know what this "option" bit is all about relative to full contracts.
 
Regards,

Darwin A. Garrison
Editor
Darwin's Evolutions: A Journal of Speculative Fiction
Debuting May 30, 2008!

Posted By : Bill Ward - 4/15/2008 11:40 PM
Great post Darwin, and welcome to the forums. I think offering an option is a great idea, and I've certainly had a lot more joy dealing with your sluch policies than a great many other magazines.

And congrats Brian!


billwardwriter.com


Posted By : Darwin - 4/16/2008 8:14 AM

Hi, Bill!  It's good to be here.  I registered when I saw that some of my authors were posting "Sale!" notices here but had seen no pressing reason to post until Brian's comment made it clear that I needed to explain.

I love finding notes in blogs and on discussion boards where authors are excitedly announcing their sales.  Warms my heart, it does, as well as build awareness of Evolutions in the wild.

Bill Ward said...
Great post Darwin, and welcome to the forums. I think offering an option is a great idea, and I've certainly had a lot more joy dealing with your sluch policies than a great many other magazines.

And congrats Brian!


Posted By : tchernabyelo - 4/16/2008 9:15 AM
Darwin

Interesting to hear it from your side of things.

I've made sales that will pay on publication, and publication may well be two years down the line. I dont have a problem with that so long as I know the situation up-front. This isn't the business to be in if you're in a hurry, so I adjust my expectations accordingly (on the other hand, there are a couple of markets who've published me and who have shown no signs of actually paying yet, and I'm beginning to wonder if I need to send some sort of gentle reminder...).

Believe me, I'm more than happy with your model - I was commenting precisely because, in my limited expereince, it's highly unusual!


Brian Dolton
 
Land Of Wind And Ghosts stories:
"The Box Of Beautiful Things" - IGMS#3
"The Man Who Was Never Afraid" - Abyss and Apex #20
"At Blue Crane Falls" - Abyss and Apex #25
"Where No Wind Blows" - Staffs & Starships #2
"What The Sea Refuses" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"What The Heart Bears" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"Above The Clouds" - Paper Blossoms, Sharpened Steel (forthcoming)
"The Dragon Path" - Fictitious Force (forthcoming)
"Three Out Of Four" - Sorcerous Signals Feb-Apr 08 
"The Last Arrow Of Liang Xi" - Darwin's Evolutions (forthcoming)
 
Stories in other settings:
"The Unicorn Hunter" - OG's Speculative Fiction #8
"Call Centre" - Necrotic Tissue #1
"When Winter Came" - ASIM #32
"Cold Fire" - Flashing Swords #9
"St. Saviour And The Devil's Dandy" - Flashing Swords (forthcoming)


Posted By : Firlefanz - 4/16/2008 9:56 AM
There's more than one magazine I only submitted to because it was discussed here on the board. It definitely makes a difference when people report how it goes.

Glad you joined, Darwin.

:-)


- Call me Firle.

Hannah Steenbock

Mystical Adventures
Sphaira

"Die arische Frau" in Pandaimonion - Die Formel des Lebens
"Der Weg nach Eridani" in Earth Rocks 3/2007 (pdf)
"Minkus, the Masterful Magic-Mender" in - AlienSkin Magazine, Featured Fiction


Posted By : Darwin - 4/25/2008 8:07 AM

Brian:

Could you please check your spam filter?  I'm worried that my e-mails are being eaten.

Regards,

Darwin


Darwin A. Garrison
Editor

Posted By : erazmus - 5/19/2008 12:34 AM
Darwin,
I love your approach to the whole situation. I wish more publishers took this to heart.

Mike


Michael D. Turner
"Psyched Up" in _Turn the other Chick_-ed. E. Friesner-Baen books
www.baen.com
"Dutchman Rescue"in Continuum SF #6
www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm

"An Incident at Black Tongue Tavern" in _Bash Down the Door and Slice Open the Badguy_ from Fantasist Enterprises:

www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php
"Pink Plastic Flamingos" in Big Pulp
www.bigpulp.com/m.html
"Stains" in Tales of the Talisman 3-1 www.zianet.com/hadrosaur/index.html
"Morning Coffee" in Every Day Fiction
www.everydayfiction.com/morning-coffee-by-michael-d-turner/
"The Jewel Below" in Flashing Swords
flashingswords.sfreader.com/issues/issue8/vol2-iss8-05.htm
"Happy Landings" in Every Day Fiction
www.everydayfiction.com/happy-landings-by-michael-d-turner/
"Teller of Tales" in Every day Fiction
www.everydayfiction.com/teller-of-tales-by-michael-d-turner/
Read "Silver Shells" In Every Day Fiction
www.everydayfiction.com/silver-shells-by-michael-d-turner/


Posted By : Darwin - 5/20/2008 3:09 PM
Hey, Mike.  Long time.
Thanks for the support.  A big part of Evolutions is all about being above-board and following the golden rule.
erazmus said...
Darwin,
I love your approach to the whole situation. I wish more publishers took this to heart.

Mike


Darwin A. Garrison
Editor