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Posted By : Rob Santa - 3/3/2007 2:11 PM

SUBMISSION GUIDELINES: Black Dragon, White Dragon

ADDED March 26: Updates on the table of contents (including brief descriptions of accepted stories) and other answers to questions (including response times) can be found at this thread in the forum: http://forum.sfreader.com/default.aspx?f=52&m=33831&p=1

EDIT ADDED WEDNESDAY, MAY 23: The reading period has concluded for the "Black Dragon, White Dragon" anthology. Thank you for your interest.

 

Ricasso Press is pleased to announce it is accepting submissions for its second anthology "Black Dragon, White Dragon." This will be a themed collection of short stories with a total word count of between 85,000 and 100,000 words, dependent on submissions.

The theme of this collection is dragons. I love them. Of the two hundred or so fantasy short stories I've written, thirty of them involve dragons. In my stories they have been simple animals, intelligent nobles, small as dogs, big as houses, heroes, villains, and everything in-between. It is my humble opinion that this singular staple of fantasy fiction presents the richest and most diverse template upon which a writer can base a story.

The reading period is through August 01, 2007, with a projected September/October 2007 release date (dependent on variables too numerous to recount here, of course). Submissions are accepted via RTF-formatted e-mail attachments only. Send to:

blackdragonwhitedragon@hotmail.com

EDIT ADDED MARCH 23: I have been receiving query emails stating that submissions are going missing. The response time right now for rejections and acceptances is very quick. If you have not received a reply from me regarding your submission within a week, assume your original message was lost and resend it. No need to query first. If after that you still don't hear from me, private message me through this forum.

What are we looking for?

Stories that involve dragons. Note that this does not say "fantasy stories." Dark fantasy and horror stories will be considered for this collection, as will science fiction stories. The preferred story will be a fantasy piece involving believable characters with which readers can connect, a sound plot which is resolved through the protagonist's actions, which is written in a well-paced and flowing style. Sprinkled throughout this anthology will be science fiction and horror pieces (should they be received). Does that mean a mediocre science fiction dragon story will displace a better-written fantasy one, just so that a science fiction story can appear in the collection? No. If the overwhelming number of submissions are skillfully-crafted high fantasy stories, then that's what the anthology will be. I will choose the best stories for the collection, not a diverse sampling of lesser quality (but unique) ones.

More importantly, the story does not have to feature a dragon; it could be a secondary presence. In fact, a dragon could never show up at all provided the purpose of the story is the dragon. For example, two heroes could go questing for a dragon but not find it or get sidetracked or a hundred other possibilities. As long as there is a dragon presence essential (note that key word) to the plot, the story is appropriate for this anthology.

Stories can be of any length. Any word count is acceptable, from micro-flash to novella-length. Bear in mind that one of the goals of the anthology is to present the greatest number of stories for readers. What that means for authors is that a 10,000-word piece needs to be far better than the two 5,000-word pieces it displaces. Does that also mean flash fiction is an easier sell? Not at all; quality counts here as well. Regardless of the story's length, authors will be paid 1/2-cent per word on acceptance (or shortly thereafter).

What aren't we looking for?

Profanity, Violence and Sex...I am a prude when I write. I would like to keep this anthology PG-rated at the most, which means you are limited to the occasional mild curse word. I promise that if you use anything stronger than what you would hear on an early-evening television program your story will get bounced. Even if I love your story, the fact that you sent it to me knowing this restriction will earn you a rejection. Same for sexual situations and gore. Suggest them to me; don't describe them in minute detail. I understand that when the knight is going toe-to-toe with the dragon there will be violence. What I am suggesting is that my preference is for tales that remark on "the sword slicing through the dragon's armor and spilling its fluids" and not "the putrefying stench of its bursting viscera assaulting the knight's senses as bile splashes his face and arms."

Lack of Motivation...Why is your character hunting the dragon? Why is your character running away from the dragon? Why, why, why? Please don't leave me in the dark. I don't want you to telegraph everything to me, but I would appreciate it if you let me know what's going on in your character's head. There is more to a knight riding out to slay the dragon than "because it is there."

Lack of Action...I once wrote a story where a wizard-for-hire played chess with a dragon. It was a character piece, and if it had been only that scene it would have never been published. Instead, I opened the story with a magical battle, ended it with one, and let both wizard and dragon recount tales of their past exploits. At its core, the piece was still a character study, one that happened to also involve heart-pounding combat and constant peril.

That will work for this anthology as well. The action is not the story, but any piece that doesn't involve some kind of conflict and resolution isn't a story. This in no way means that a beautifully-created character study won't find its way into the anthology. It only means that it will be a tougher sell.

Black Dragons and White Dragons...Not entirely true, but sending a story with either a black dragon or a white dragon does not influence the decision-making process.

 

Thank you for your interest in Ricasso Press and "Black Dragon, White Dragon." Updates will be found here. Please feel free to post questions or PM me.

As always, public thanks to Ralan Conley for his outstanding writer's resource site. Visit for market updates regularly. www.ralan.com



Rob Santa
Hopelessly Addicted Writer of Speculative Fiction
and CEO of Ricasso Press


Posted By : SC Bryce - 3/3/2007 5:38 PM
Cool!


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Posted By : Christopher_Heath - 3/3/2007 6:03 PM
Double cool! Do you take reprints?


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"Azieran: The Breaking of Hell's Bones" in Black Sails by 1018 Press
"Azieran: Distilling the Essence" in Sails and Sorcery by Fantasist Enterprises
"Azieran: The Conquerors" in Chimaera Serials
"Azieran: Pawn of the Serpentine Witch" in Chronicles of Fantasy by ComStar Media
"Azieran: Sentinel of an Ageless Reign" in Chronicles of Fantasy by ComStar Media
"Azieran: The Lakeshorn Mirrors" in Chronicles of Fantasy by ComStar Media 
"Azieran: Crestfallen in Mal'kyrrik" serialized novella in Forgotten Worlds 
"Azieran: Wyrd Sins" in Rogue Worlds
"The Coruscate King" in Freehold: Betrayal - Ghourlesh Book I
"Azieran: Beyond the Black Veil" in Stalking Shadows
 
 + others
 
 
 
 


Posted By : Kuroboshii - 3/3/2007 7:29 PM
Hm...oddly enough, I've got a 30k novella in which the hero is actually named "The Black Dragon".
 
30k is probably a long shot, but mayhaps I'll send it along anyhow....


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Posted By : Rob Santa - 3/4/2007 2:26 AM
Yes, I'd look at reprints. Please include the when and where.

Sean, 30K is going to be - as they say around here - a wicked longshot. Nevertheless, I still want to read it.



Rob Santa
Hopelessly Addicted Writer of Speculative Fiction
and CEO of Ricasso Press


Posted By : von Darkmoor - 3/4/2007 2:32 AM
Nice offering, Rob. And well-stated desires (and demands). Whether I were to make it into this or not, you've already sold me a copy.

p.s. fyi - I tossed your call for subs on the blog


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Posted By : Rob Santa - 3/4/2007 11:46 AM
I just fielded a query about humorous fiction. Certainly the anthology is not going to be cover-to-cover guffaws, as that is not my intent. But I am willing to look at pieces with a skewed persepctive (and yes, that's an open call to Terry Pratchett and Robert Lynn Asprin to send me something :-) ).



Rob Santa
Hopelessly Addicted Writer of Speculative Fiction
and CEO of Ricasso Press


Posted By : Nik - 3/5/2007 12:18 AM
Looking forward to this one.


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Posted By : Bruce Durham - 3/7/2007 12:16 AM
Hmm. Good topic. I have an idea, I just hope I can complete something worthy.


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Posted By : tchernabyelo - 3/8/2007 9:06 AM
Well, I've subbed... fingers crossed...
 
And I've reported the market to Duotrope, since I use that as my tracker.


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Posted By : crystalwizard - 3/9/2007 11:59 AM
Rob,

I've got a reprint I'd like to submit, but the original is currently part of a permanent online archive for the original publisher. Would they need to take it out of their archive, or would it be alright just to include a 'originally published by' notice?


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Posted By : Rob Santa - 3/9/2007 12:52 PM
Go ahead and send reprints, regardless of any archival history. I'll make that call later if I have to.



Rob Santa
Hopelessly Addicted Writer of Speculative Fiction
and CEO of Ricasso Press


Posted By : carnifexpress - 3/11/2007 3:14 PM
Dusting off a Freehold dragon tale that I wrote about fifteen years ago that I loved and doing the old massive rewrite on it this week... nice theme!

Armand Rosamilia


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Posted By : crystalwizard - 3/11/2007 8:08 PM
Ok Rob, you have email with my little short story attached to it. Sorry, but it's not a glorious battle scene either. Ah well.


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Posted By : ScrewMoonshine - 3/12/2007 2:12 PM
I'll write one up for this eventually(kind of busy right now). I promise that it will be a serious work, too; I don't usually write comedy, and I can't write comic fantasy!

Robert Orme


Out now:
"On the Tree Top" in Ultraverse vol.3 #5 (www.ultraverse.us)
"The Scab, the Man, and the I.V." in Mount Zion Speculative Fiction Review #3 (www.mountzionpress.com)

Coming soon:
"More Than One Way to Protect" in Lords of Justice (www.carnifexpress.net/blogs/)
"And Afterward" and "Candy Lover" in Flashshot, April 30 and May 23 (www.gwthomas.org/subscribe.htm)


Posted By : Scott M. Sandridge - 3/12/2007 3:29 PM
Rob Santa said...
Yes, I'd look at reprints. Please include the when and where.
Perfect! Dragon story on the way! In fact I got two! Multiple subs okay or would you want me to send them one at a time?


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Posted By : Rob Santa - 3/12/2007 4:28 PM
Go right ahead and send multi-subs. Works for me.



Rob Santa
Hopelessly Addicted Writer of Speculative Fiction
and CEO of Ricasso Press


Posted By : Scott M. Sandridge - 3/12/2007 4:38 PM
Suuuhhhhweeeet! jumpin My first multisub!


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Posted By : carnifexpress - 3/21/2007 4:02 PM
Finshed my dragon story this weekend, got some eyes on it to tell me what sucked, changed the suck parts, and just sent it off to the Esteemed Editor... now, fingers crossed and awaiting the reply.

Armand Rosamilia


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The Freehold site is now up!
 
 


Posted By : glutton - 3/21/2007 10:49 PM
Finished writing mine, just going to do a light revision before sending it out . . . and I do promise that there is some INTENSE combat in this one. :)

Posted By : Raph - 3/21/2007 11:14 PM
Still working on mine; it's coming along, but it'll be a few days before I'm finished. At least I'm getting somewhere with this one, unlike the last couple I've tried to write.


Mike O.


Posted By : carnifexpress - 3/22/2007 2:52 PM
Apparently it didn't suck, as Mister Santa accepted it for the book. Awesome seeing the ToC growing on this one and the company I am keeping.

Armand Rosamilia


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The Freehold site is now up!
 
 


Posted By : Frank Menser - 3/27/2007 5:08 PM
Ok, Just saw this (deeply involved in a move). Have an idea I will start on and hopefully finish when I get to NC.

FRank


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Posted By : Ian McEwen - 4/1/2007 11:56 PM
My apologies if this is a repeat question or the like: What's your policy on underage submissions (I am 17 at the moment; 18 in October)? I'd love to submit, but if I'm not actually eligible, well. I think the conclusions there are fairly clear.

Thanks.
Ian McEwen

Posted By : Rob Santa - 4/2/2007 9:11 AM
Thanks for stopping by the forum, Ian. I began writing when I was 16; please do send me something. I have a birthday milestone in October as well: 40.

Looking forward to reading your work.

Rob Santa



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and CEO of Ricasso Press


Posted By : Pagadan - 4/6/2007 8:03 PM
I rarely write dragon stories, but I remembered a short old one, in which the dragon is a cross between SF and fantasy, I'm pretty sure.  So I've submitted Rocky Falls Park, which does have some violence in it.


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Posted By : Vincent Avatar - 4/11/2007 8:18 PM
I couldn't resist registering on the forum, and then promptly sending a submission. I don't know why I registered, of course, other than this seems a good sort of place to be registered at.

Posted By : Jordan Lapp - 4/11/2007 8:22 PM
It seems to be a good forum because it IS a good forum ;). Where there's smoke there's fire!


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Posted By : Heron - 4/12/2007 7:11 AM
Hi, Heron here. 
 
I have a question on the 'Black Dragon, White Dragon' anthology 'no violence' caveat.
 
If by no violence, meaning zero harm comes to any characters either physical, mental, or emotional, there's not much left for conflict.  Falling off a cliff, getting a cut, getting knocked across a stone floor, going through a painful metamophosis, then being skewered by a sword would invalidate a story.  confused
 
 
 

Posted By : Christopher_Heath - 4/12/2007 9:06 AM
Heron,

Re-read the post. Mr. Santa just doesn't want to be grossed out with overly descriptive phrases of the violence.


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"Azieran: Savior in a Flask" in Mages and Mechanica by Ricasso Press
"Azieran: The Travelers Four" in Black Dragon, White Dragon by Ricasso Press
"Azieran: The Breaking of Hell's Bones" in Black Sails by 1018 Press
"Azieran: Distilling the Essence" in Sails and Sorcery by Fantasist Enterprises
"Azieran: The Conquerors" in Chimaera Serials
"Azieran: Pawn of the Serpentine Witch" in Chronicles of Fantasy by ComStar Media
"Azieran: Sentinel of an Ageless Reign" in Chronicles of Fantasy by ComStar Media
"Azieran: The Lakeshorn Mirrors" in Chronicles of Fantasy by ComStar Media 
"Azieran: Crestfallen in Mal'kyrrik" serialized novella in Forgotten Worlds 
"Azieran: Wyrd Sins" in Rogue Worlds
 
 + others
 
 
 
 


Posted By : Rob Santa - 4/12/2007 9:14 AM
Where was that question again?

Seriously, though, the guidelines do not say this is a Ghandi-esque collection of non-violence. The exact wording is below, but for clarification: the violence should not be graphic. I'm not looking for Kill Bill-level action. There will undoubtedly be violence in these stories, and I have accepted several with it playing a major factor in the resolution of the plot's main conflict. What they do not do is splatter the pages with gore. Had they, regardless of the quality of the writing, they would have gotten bounced.

Regarding scenes with violence, from the guidelines...

"Suggest them to me; don't describe them in minute detail. I understand that when the knight is going toe-to-toe with the dragon there will be violence. What I am suggesting is that my preference is for tales that remark on "the sword slicing through the dragon's armor and spilling its fluids" and not 'the putrefying stench of its bursting viscera assaulting the knight's senses as bile splashes his face and arms.' "



Rob Santa
Hopelessly Addicted Writer of Speculative Fiction
and CEO of Ricasso Press


Posted By : shadowlight - 4/20/2007 4:48 PM
Hi,
 
I've never submitted anything before so I have a couple of questions-and I'm having a little difficulty finding the answer on the site because I'm new here.  blush First.  Does there have to be anything special in the heading of the e-mail?  What information needs to be included with the ms and should it be on a seperate page?  Do you want the word count included?  What rights would I retain to my story, should it be accepted, and what rights belong to Ricasso Press?
 
Oh, and this may sound stupid, but I've never formatted anything in rtf.  How is it different from a regular word document? Hmm..maybe you should just refer me somewhere so I get all the margins and paragraph indents and such correct.  I thought I saw it somewhere, but now I can't find it.
 
Eagerly awaiting your response,  ;-)  
shadowlight


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Posted By : shadowlight - 4/20/2007 10:10 PM
Ok, I looked around some more and finally found it.  I hadn't thought to look in the other anthology thread, but there it was. lol
 
There's sooo much to see and do on this site...I keep getting lost, and sidetracked. blush
 
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Posted By : Rob Santa - 4/21/2007 1:29 AM
No worries. Any time you need a question answered, whether related to this anthology or not, there's always someone around who can answer it.

Did you get that rtf-formatting figured out?



Rob Santa
Hopelessly Addicted Writer of Speculative Fiction
and CEO of Ricasso Press


Posted By : shadowlight - 4/21/2007 8:40 AM
I've noticed that.  :-)   This is a very friendly place.
 
I'm not sure it I got the formatting right.  I followed the directions as posted--at least I tried to.  I'm a relative newbie as far as submitting goes and this is my first time to an anthology or using rtf. (Wow, that's a lot of new things. ;-) )  I did my best to format the story correctly and now will wait to see if I succeeded.)
 
shadowlight


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