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Posted By : bleacheddecay - 5/23/2007 7:04 PM
This series which started off a bit slow, with Dead Witch Walking, has gotten really good for me.

In Dead Witch Walking there was a little too much background explanation of the world in which the book took place. I admit it's a fine line to walk. Not enough and the reader is left asking wha? Too much and the reader is saying yeah, yeah, what about the action?

By the middle of the first book I knew I was going to enjoy the book very much and wanted another already. Of course I was a bit disappointed that the witch wasn't actually dead. I had sort of hoped she'd be a witch vampire cross or something but still it was a really good book.

Each book has gotten better and better. I really love the spaghetti western-ish titles as well, The Good The Bad and The Undead, Every Witch Way But Dead and A Fistful of Charms are the others so far.

Ah, it reminds me of those lovely afternoons with my Dad watching ole Clint on the big screen!

Only, this is waaaay better because it has a witch, and elf, a vampire, a pixie and so much more! Whoo hoo! It's a party!


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/9/2007 3:33 PM

Sounds like you enjoy dark urban fantasy as much as I do!  smilewinkgrin

I tried the first two of the Kim Harrison books and just couldn't get into them.  Maybe because I am a Witch, and they were just too silly for me.  But I am a huge fan of Lilith Saintcrow and her "Dante Valentine" series and of course Jim Butcher's "The Dresden Files" novel series.  These are reeeeally good dark urban fantasy series.  Give them a shot if you haven't tried them already.

I am just starting Laurell K. Hamilton's series.  My book addict friends tell me to stop after the 8th book in her series because LKH has added lots of soft porn to her novels, and it just gets worse with every one in the series and so do the plots.  I am also trying Charlaine Harris.  So I'll let you know how it goes.

If dark urban fantasy is your favorite I have lots of suggestions in my TBR list for that genre that other fans have given me.  Let me know, and I'll list them, so you can check them out too if you like.


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/9/2007 6:24 PM
Hi Laura Stamps!

It's good to have someone who likes dark urban fantasy as I do join me on this thread!

Thank you.

The first book was a little slow but I enjoyed it enough to read the others. I've enjoyed the series so far a great deal. I don't consider her world realistic to ours though.

I've read Working For the Devil and liked it a LOT. I will be reading more of Lilith Saintcrow's books.

I've been reading The Dresden Files. I plan to start on the next one soon. I think it will be the fourth of fifth one.

I don't mind soft porn at all. I do miss the more ass kicking Anita though. I find it fascinating how she went from no sex, none of the time to all sex all the time as a character. I do think the plots are suffering a bit.

Charlaine Harris has a great series out I'm reading the latest one of hers right now. They are only slightly flawed by being a tad shorter than I prefer in a book.

Have you read Burning Water by Mercedes Lackey and the rest of her witch series? I have no idea how realistic they are or aren't but I enjoyed them. I wanted more!

I'd LOVE to see your list!


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/10/2007 3:09 PM

Hi, Beacheddecay!

You asked for it (grin)!  I keep my TBR list in a tiny loose-leaf notebook in my purse, so it is always handy when I go to the bookstore or search for dark urban fantasy online.  I also belong to a lot of fantasy/book forums and groups.  Recently, I was looking for more in this genre to read since I am such a fan, and this is what I got in response to my postings.  I have just started reading on this list so most of these I can't recommend from personal reading experience.

By the way I forgot to mention Madelyn Alt.  Good Witch books, two so far.  Her third is coming out the end of the year.  And by all means read the next in the Dante Valentine series if you have already read the first.  It is "Dead Man Rising" and simply AWESOME!!!  I am such a fan of this Lilith Saintcrow series.  She has another series called "The Watcher" series.  It is kind of romance.  I don't know if you like paranormal romance, but I don't, although these books are good if you do like that (I've read all of them)

Some of the authors on this list might be paranormal romance. The people who gave me these suggestions didn't specify which was which, but I fgured I would check them all out myself anyway when I am ready to move on to the next author on the list.  Here it goes...

--Rosemary Edgill (Bell, Book & Murder...three novels in one book)

--Mercedes Lackey (Diana Tregarde series)

--M.R. Sellars (Roman Gant series...Witch paranormal mysteries)

--Robin McKinley ("Sunshine")

--Shirley Daamsgard

--Victoria Laurie

--Katie Macalister

--J.R. Ward

--Erin McCarthy

--Mary Jane Davidson

--Sherilyn Kenyon

--Christine Warren

--Lori Handeland

--Savannnah Russe

--Simon R. Green (supposed to be just like Jim Butcher...Yea!)

--Cheyene McCray

--Nalini Singh

--Karen Chance

--Jackie Kessler

--Kathy Love

--C.E. Murphy

--Sunny

--Maggie Shayne

--Terry Brooks (demon series)

--Charles de Lint

--Yasmin Galenorn (Chintz & China series) 


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/10/2007 3:13 PM
I forgot to mention I have heard in my fantasy forums and groups that Charlaine Harris has a new series out (maybe two books in it so far?) that is even better than her other series.  Don't know the name of it though.


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/10/2007 4:17 PM
Laura Stamps said...
I forgot to mention I have heard in my fantasy forums and groups that Charlaine Harris has a new series out (maybe two books in it so far?) that is even better than her other series. Don't know the name of it though.


I've read them. I liked them too. I don't think they are better than the Sookie Stackhouse books, though eventually they may become so. The only thing about her books is I wish they were all longer!

LOL


bleacheddecay


Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/10/2007 4:19 PM
Laura Stamps said...
Hi, Beacheddecay!

You asked for it (grin)! I keep my TBR list in a tiny loose-leaf notebook in my purse, so it is always handy when I go to the bookstore or search for dark urban fantasy online. I also belong to a lot of fantasy/book forums and groups. Recently, I was looking for more in this genre to read since I am such a fan, and this is what I got in response to my postings. I have just started reading on this list so most of these I can't recommend from personal reading experience.

By the way I forgot to mention Madelyn Alt. Good Witch books, two so far. Her third is coming out the end of the year. And by all means read the next in the Dante Valentine series if you have already read the first. It is "Dead Man Rising" and simply AWESOME!!! I am such a fan of this Lilith Saintcrow series. She has another series called "The Watcher" series. It is kind of romance. I don't know if you like paranormal romance, but I don't, although these books are good if you do like that (I've read all of them)

Some of the authors on this list might be paranormal romance. The people who gave me these suggestions didn't specify which was which, but I fgured I would check them all out myself anyway when I am ready to move on to the next author on the list. Here it goes...

--Rosemary Edgill (Bell, Book & Murder...three novels in one book)

--Mercedes Lackey (Diana Tregarde series)

--M.R. Sellars (Roman Gant series...Witch paranormal mysteries)

--Robin McKinley ("Sunshine")

--Shirley Daamsgard

--Victoria Laurie

--Katie Macalister

--J.R. Ward

--Erin McCarthy

--Mary Jane Davidson

--Sherilyn Kenyon

--Christine Warren

--Lori Handeland

--Savannnah Russe

--Simon R. Green (supposed to be just like Jim Butcher...Yea!)

--Cheyene McCray

--Nalini Singh

--Karen Chance

--Jackie Kessler

--Kathy Love

--C.E. Murphy

--Sunny

--Maggie Shayne

--Terry Brooks (demon series)

--Charles de Lint

--Yasmin Galenorn (Chintz & China series)


Thank you!!!

Now I have something to refer back to when I need more reads!

I've read a few of these.

Some have been romanc-y which isn't what I'm after though if there is enough humor, I can enjoy it.

Some are very good.

Others I need to taste!

*grins and does happy dance*


bleacheddecay


Posted By : erazmus - 6/11/2007 1:54 AM
I don't like Harris's new series as much as I do Sookie Stackhouse.
Mike


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Posted By : BethS - 6/11/2007 7:43 AM

If ya'll like dark urban fantasy, there's a new author on the scene who's been making quite a splash on the best-seller lists:  Vicki Pettersson. She has two novels out: The Scent of Shadows and A Taste of Night.

~Beth


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/11/2007 8:59 AM
BethS said...

If ya'll like dark urban fantasy, there's a new author on the scene who's been making quite a splash on the best-seller lists:  Vicki Pettersson. She has two novels out: The Scent of Shadows and A Taste of Night.

~Beth

 
Thanks!  I'll have to check her out.  :-)


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/11/2007 9:03 AM
bleacheddecay said...
Laura Stamps said...

--Rosemary Edgill (Bell, Book & Murder...three novels in one book)

--Mercedes Lackey (Diana Tregarde series)

--M.R. Sellars (Roman Gant series...Witch paranormal mysteries)

--Robin McKinley ("Sunshine")

--Shirley Daamsgard

--Victoria Laurie

--Katie Macalister

--J.R. Ward

--Erin McCarthy

--Mary Jane Davidson

--Sherilyn Kenyon

--Christine Warren

--Lori Handeland

--Savannnah Russe

--Simon R. Green (supposed to be just like Jim Butcher...Yea!)

--Cheyene McCray

--Nalini Singh

--Karen Chance

--Jackie Kessler

--Kathy Love

--C.E. Murphy

--Sunny

--Maggie Shayne

--Terry Brooks (demon series)

--Charles de Lint

--Yasmin Galenorn (Chintz & China series)


Thank you!!!

I've read a few of these.

Some have been romanc-y which isn't what I'm after though if there is enough humor, I can enjoy it.

 

 
 
Which ones on this list that you have read are romance-y so I can avoid them.  I'm not a fan of romance novels either.  Thanks!  roll


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/11/2007 2:19 PM
Well that will take some research, hang on a minute.

Katie Macalister is a little too heavy on romance and not as funny for me personally as it would take to make me like it.

Sherilyn Kenyon is pretty romanced up IMO.

Victoria Laurie looks romance-y but I can't say I remember reading her. So the rest of this is mostly google search based.

Christine Warren is listed as an erotic romance writer.

Cheyene McCray seems to be very romance oriented, Kathy Love and Jackie Kessler.

Mary Jane Davidson may be somewhat romanced up but they have enough vamp stuff and are funny enough that I liked them a lot and highly recommend them.

HTH


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/11/2007 3:05 PM
Thanks!!!  I just marked those off my TBR list.  You've been a big big help.  smilewinkgrin


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/11/2007 3:08 PM

By the way, are you familiar with Spilled Candy Books?

http://www.SpilledCandy.com

They specialize in Witch books.  No kidding.  Check them out.  You can order their books from the website or amazon. 

 

 


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/11/2007 3:23 PM
No! They are new to me. I'll check them out though, I rarely read anything that isn't at the library. With my book addiction I'd soon be broke otherwise.

BTW, You Suck, A Love Story by Christopher Moore was pretty good and also amusing for a vampire book.


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/11/2007 3:43 PM
When I do booksignings at chain bookstores, some of the managers become good friends, and one of those at Waldenbooks is CRAZY about Christopher Moore and always trying to get me to read his books.  Now I have a good reason...vampires!  Thanks for the suggestion.  I will add that one to my TBR list as well.  smilewinkgrin
 
BTW, you are going to love this.  One of the members at another SF&F forum I belong to has an indie bookstore, and it is closing, so she is selling all her books at closeout prices.  She sent me a list of all the dark urban fantasy/no romance books (for me) and fantasy (for my husband) that she has left, and I bought them all...14 of them priced at $1.99 and under.  That will take care of my husband's birthday and Yule for this year and more.  Not to mention all the great books I have to look forward to for myself!  It's a Snoopy Happy Dance day today for sure.  hop


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/11/2007 5:02 PM
That is great! I'm green eyed here!

Here is a good book that has vampires in it btw, Sisters of the Night : The Angry Angel by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro. There is a sequel which is good as well. Each of them go through the rather epic story of how a girl becomes "a bride of Dracula." There should be more sequels but due to what I understand is a publishing dispute of some sort the third one has yet to get to the masses.

She has another series about a vampire, the St. Germain series. I read the first one. It did not produce in me the craving to get another, at least not yet.


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/12/2007 9:20 AM

Thanks!  Just added that one to my TBR list too.  smilewinkgrin

Here's what I got from the bookshop:

 

(FOR ME)

--Sunshine in hardcover with no dustjacket by Robin McKinley

--Deerskin by Robin McKinley

--Hamilton Kiss of  Shadows, which is book 2(Ithink)in her Faerie series.

--Nightlife by Rob Thurman

--The Tanya Huff book

 

(FOR MY HUSBAND)

--Zelazny: The changing Land

--The Dawn of Amber

--Sign of the Unicorn

--Knight of Shadows

--Trumps of Doom

--Prince of Chaos

--Sign of Chaos, HC cond good dj rough

--Jack Vance we have now is Maske: Thaery

--Tigana by Guy Gavriel Kay

 

What do you think?  Tanya Huff's name sounds so familiar but I didn't have her on my TBR list.  The bookshop lady suggested her.  Have you read any of her books?


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/12/2007 3:06 PM
I've probably read the Huff book. I think I've read all of hers. I know I've read the Hamilton book. I need to read some of the others I guess. I'll enjoy having this thread to refer back to!


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/12/2007 3:21 PM
One of my buddies from another forum suggested and just raved about Sunshine by Robin McKinley.  She is a major dark urban fantasy fan and said this was one of her all-time favorite books.  Wow.  So I was thrilled to actually get it in hardcover.  And I had never even heard of this book/author before.  When I read it I'll let you know what I think. 
 
BTW, have you ever read Dracula by Bram Stoker?  Someone from yet another book forum (yes, I am a book forum junkie and proud of it  smilewinkgrin  ) said that book was so poetic, and she just loved every poetic page of it.  I gave it a shot and never found anything poetic about it.  In fact I gave it a really good shot for me.  I made it to page 80.  Usually if the first 50 pages don't grab me I give up and that's that for a book.  But it was just boring IMO.  Did you ever read it.  What did you think about it? 


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/12/2007 3:42 PM
I did read it but I didn't like it.

Any story that doesn't have a character that I like and care what happens to them, doesn't work for me.

This was one of those.

Ugh.


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/12/2007 4:32 PM

Me too.  Just couldn't care about any of those characters. 

Speaking of that, did you ever read The Glass Books of the Dream Eaters?  Yikes!  I made it through 150 pages of that one, because of all the buzz about what a brillant book it was (and it was beautifully written).  I thought surely I must be missing something.  But I wasn't.  For me it just didn't click, and I could care less about the characters.  And now there is a sequel coming out.  Double yikes!


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/12/2007 4:41 PM
No and now with you seeming to be so like minded with me I certainly won't be trying to read it.

*smiles*


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/12/2007 4:52 PM

Ha!  Glad I could save you the headache!

By the way, besides dark urban fantasy, my other two favorite kinds of books to read are the classics (Jane Austen, the Bronte sisters, Virginia Woolf...I love beautiful language) and poetry (Wordsworth is my favorite).  How about you?  Are you a closet classics lover too? 

Also do you belong to any social networking groups for book people?  I belong to Librarything, but there isn't enough networking going on there, so I was looking for something else.  There are lots out there it seems, but for one reason or another they haven't appealled to me so I haven't joined.  I did find an intriguing one the other day when I was searching the net called Goodreads.  Know anything about that one?


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/12/2007 6:10 PM
I don't belong to any of those. I do love talking about books, movie, television and stories, in general, which is in all areas of our lives, really.

I'm not a huge fan of the classics. Though I've enjoyed some. Poetry is the same for me. It's lovely but, though I dabble in it myself, it's not something I hunger to read very often.

Vampire literature, game play and so on is my number one preferred genre. Of course it has to be good for me. I don't tend to follow the crowds. For instance, I didn't like Dracula but I loved The Keep by F. Paul Wilson.

Out of that I've come to appreciate some other paranormal stuff as well.

I love kick ass females with a lot of humor in any genre. Therefore I fell in love with the Stephanie Plum series by Janet Evanovich. It starts with One For The Money. Sadly she's taken to publishing tiny tomes at least once a year. Happily even these are good and she almost always puts out another novel that I like as well.

I do enjoy good writing but I prefer it to be at least book length, a series is even better!

Lately I've been getting into historical fiction. A really good book I found was I, Mona Lisa which is during the Medici era of Italy. That is a time period that spans quite a long ways and is fascinating to me.

I also adore good King Arthur stuff.

I love stuff from feudal Japan such as The Samurai's Wife by Laura Joh Rowland. In fact, going places that are not open to me in a story is a very compelling thing to me. Some examples just off the top of my head:

The E.Z. Rollin's series by Walter Mosley.
The Joy Luck Club by Amy Tan
Sims by F. Paul Wilson

Which brings up books that in some ways mirror our society but bring up issues that need to be fixed in an entertaining way.

Of which Sims would be a good example.

I love ancient society stuff such as the Egyptian mysteries by P.C. Doherty.

I adore epic stories such as The Farseer series: Assassins Apprentice by Robin Hobb or Kushiel's Dart by Jacqueline Carey.

I love to see a good sex scene in a book that doesn't make things too pretty. What I mean by that is that shows or implies sex without calling parts "her maidenhood" or some such. LOL.

If you are going to do sex, do it all the way I say or leave it mostly evocative and implied but the flowery romance type thing doesn't work for me.

I love a book with great characters that you care about. Characters you want to follow and see what happens with them. Also, that change in some logical way during a series without compromising the things you liked about them.

I love good violence. One of my all time favorite authors is James Lee Burke. He does beautiful things with words and is great at violence as well as, good at sex. He pretty well,has it all. Which brings me to books that have to do with Louisiana!

That's a big interest of mine as well. I love good books that take place in New Orleans and to a lesser extent in Louisiana or anywhere I've lived and loved.

Examples:

Fat White Vampire Blues by Andrew Fox. (A different take on vampires and to me quite funny.)

Bourbon Street Blues by by Greg Herren (A gay detective / bartender / stripper / flower child raised guy solves mysteries.)

Tubby Meets Katrina by Anthony P. Dunbar (This was my first post Katrina novel that I read.)

Okay I'm being pressured to go make dinner by my son. Must run!


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/13/2007 4:07 PM

Sorry it took me so long to get to this forum today.  What a day!  A good one, but exhausting.  I decided to change the template on my website this morning, and it took hours longer than I thought it would.  Lots of snafus, including having to add a new site meter.  But all problems are solved, and I just love it...it is so pretty now.  Check it out if you get a chance http://www.KittyfeatherPress.blogspot.com

Okay, I LOVE the paranormal.  As a Witch, the paranormal is my life (my real life...grin).

And Walter Mosley's E.Z. Rollins is great.  Haven't read the books but saw the movies and loved them.  That's another thing.  Don't get me started on movies...I adore them, and we see over 100 movies every year on DVD and TCM.

Egypt is also another burning passion of mine.  In this lifetime and in past lifetimes.  In fact, my first past life memory is as a Priestess in the Temples of Bast in ancient Egypt thousands of years ago (yes, I am an old spirit).

I feel exactly the way you do about well-written sex scenes.  I think one of the best I ever read was only 3-4 paragraphs long and used none of the usual words for a sex scene, yet had me gasping for air at the end of it.  I'm talking about the one in Working for the Devil between Danny and the demon.  Wow. That was when I knew for sure Lilith Saintcrow was a masterful writer.  You should read Dead Man Rising.  Awesome!

Interesting you have an interest in New Orleans.  Are you an Anne Rice fan?  She is an incredibly talented writer.  And talk about panting...the porn books she writes under another name are not to be read in a bookstore in a crowd of people for sure.   smilewinkgrin   But I am not a fan.  Her characters are too mean-spirited for me to care about them.  Meaness is a really quick way for me to put a book down and never pick it up again.  I've seen too much in real life to want to read about it in my leisure.  But she is an excellent wordsmith.

So why are you interested in New Orleans?  Do you live there?  I attended the College of Charleston in Charleston, SC, and it is amazing how similar Charleston and New Orleans are in architecture.   

 


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/13/2007 6:08 PM
Interview was great! It took her forever to put out the next one though.

I've read a LOT of Rice stuff. What I liked about it was how relatable she made these fantastical creatures. What I didn't like was how deep into description she tends to go.

I also like authors who take the ordinary and somehow make them extraordinary but just short of the whole magical realism thing. I was the only one in the neighborhood book club to actually read One Hundred Years of Solitude btw.

It turned out they all would rather compare rings, houses, families and perfection than read, gag me. Also they wanted to read books they "should" read, not books they enjoyed. In the end they didn't actually read them anyway. So NOT my scene! Back to Anne Rice . . .

The second book was also good for me. I left off somewhere around the eighth or so in the series.

I read the Mayfair Witches series. I was pregnant at the time. I was so highly pissed off that Rowan gave her baby to the demon.

The most recent of her's that I read married the vampires and the witches. It was something farm, I think.

I'm somewhat curious about the book she has about Jesus.

I've never read her porn. I think mainly because my abusive ex was into them. I'm considering reading them now. However I know they in no way represent what BDSM is really all about. You'd be hard pressed to find that in any novel though.

I met her once. We did not form an instant bond but she did stop the reception line to remark on my dress. *grins*

I have family and fond mostly romantic (my current husband proposed in front of St. Andrews) memories of New Orleans. I have lived there.

Any place I know well I like seeing a book written there. There is a series about a maid / detective in Atlanta that I enjoyed a lot as well. I've lived and traveled all over the Southeastern United States.

I've been to Charleston too. It's lovely. It's a cleaner, smaller French Quarter sort of thing in the old historic district. The beaches on one side are really beautiful. On the other side they are ugly but in a brutal fierce way that in itself is somewhat beautiful.

Cool web site btw!

You might be interested to know that I have three rescue cats. My daughter and I are working on a series of picture books about rescue animals.

The E.Z. Rollins books, are of course, MUCH better than the movies.

I watch a LOT of movies too and love to talk about them.

At one time I only read traditional sci fi, Asimov, Anthony and Heinlein (I so wanted to have his children! LOL!) After a while I burned out on that but now I'm getting back into some of it.


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/14/2007 2:20 PM

How funny about the book club!!  I'm not a joiner...on the net I am a major networker and joiner, but in person, no.  Too much of an anarchist, I think.  Put me in a group, and the indecision of most people drives me nuts, and pretty soon I have taken over, and I'm saying, "Okay, first we do this and this and this."  It's what I get for being an organized person...I can see from 1 to 10 in a straight line, and all the steps that need to be taken inbetween.  smilewinkgrin  

I only read the first page of the Anne Rice book about Jesus while I was in B&N one day.  I had to laugh...she is so into marketing.  She has Jesus as a kid kill another kid on the first page.  What a hoot!  Grabbing her audience by the throat in the first 100 words or less.  That's Anne Rice!

Okay, now you have thrown me again.  The first time by saying you like violence in a book and now by telling me your ex was abusive.  How is that possible?  I thought violence and abuse would be the last thing you would want to read in a book, no ???

How about that!  I was married in the most famous historic church in Charleston...St. Phillips.  The one that juts out into the road and is in all the paintings of historic Charleston.  But only because my family is Episcopalian and the Priest from the church we went to in Atlanta when I was a little girl was the priest at that church 15 years later.  It was a "mom" thing, like most first weddings (grin).  When you get married the second time you get the wedding you always wanted.  The first one is the one your mom always wanted.  That was certainly true for me.

Cool that you met Anne Rice!  Was she dressed in black and vampish?  How about you?  What DID that dress look like you had on (grin)?

Glad you liked my website makeover!!

How wonderful you have rescue cats!  At the moment my feral colony is down from 21 to 7 (lots of adoptions) after getting them all fixed and tamed.  I have 5 indoor cats (all ferals and strays).  And a mom and her 4 kittens in a dog pen in my garage at the moment.  She was abandoned pregnant and had her kittens on my front porch for Mother's Day.  Really cute kittens too.  When they are old enough I will find homes for them and get mom spayed.

I have been in the Southeast since I was 6 when we moved to Atlanta (Dunwoody North in Chamblee) and then to Dalton, GA, when I was 12, where I stayed until I almost finished Dalton Junior College (packed up my car and left in the middle of the night to escape an abusive boyfriend).  Then I moved to Charleston, SC, to almost finish at the College of Charleston, got married (new boyfriend), and moved to Newberry, SC, and then to Columbia, SC, where I have been for 27 years.  My oldest brother lives here too, and my mom and youngest brother live in Myrtle Beach.

I never could get into SF, but I just bought my husband a Philip K. Dick novel for Father's Day (from the cats lol ).  We have enjoyed the movies made from Dick's books, so I thought he might like to read one of his novels.


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/16/2007 2:07 AM
I already wrote out a long response to this but it doesn't seem to have been posted. Darn it!

Okay. Here I go again.

I'm not much of a joiner either. In spite of that I've joined quite a few things. I'd venture to say that if I organized a book club the readers would enjoy the selections more of the time than those ladies did. Perhaps they just liked to bitch about the books more than find a solution. I dunno about some people.

*L*

I love it when authors grab me and pull me into a book. So Anne doing that wouldn't have thrown me. I'm just a wee bit leery of the subject in general. That's why I've steered clear thus far.

My ex was abusive in many ways but very rarely was his physically violent. That's not really the point though.

Perhaps I should have used the word action rather than violence. I want action in my stories. I want humor. I want relatable characters. I want a good clear story. A kick ass lead female character helps as well. Extra points if it's a vampire story but NOT in the tradition of Dracula. More extra points if there is a well written sex scene explicit or implied but not candied.

In any case, I like what I like. It doesn't have to make sense with my life experiences at all. Human beings are complex, self contradicting beings at times. I know I am!

One of the things I'm working on in my efforts is writing violence and action. It's so anathema to me personally that it's really difficult to write. I'm getting more comfortable with it as I force myself into it though.
Few books, without some physical confrontation of some sort, is complete for me. I want things to be really happening. That's part of the fantasy.

I know what you mean about first and second weddings. My Mom certainly stepped into the first one and made some major Mom changes. The second one I was just lucky she showed up at all in any condition.

*chuckles*

I did meet Anne. This was some 15 years or so ago. Back before her husband died and she lost weight so of course she was wearing black but she didn't look particularly vampy. Now EVERYONE else had on black too and fake fangs of course.

This was an annual Halloween party in New Orleans. I just thought no way would a vampire who has been undead for ages stick with nothing but black. I mean Lestat would have been the first to say screw this I'm wearing colors for God's sake!

So I wore a white dress shot through with silver threads. It was a very Mardi Gras looking gown. It was cut very low on the bodice and had a slit nearly up to my waist to showcase my legs. I must confess I did have fake fangs and a tiny blood trail in the right corner of my lower lip.

Anne seemed quite taken with the outfit. The party was mostly a bore. LA Guns were there though. I remember after meeting her and finding out there was nothing at the party that interested me, going for a walk on the cobble stone streets with my love.

We had a lovely conversation. I had to take my high heels off and walk in stocking feet after a bit because the shoes hurt. LOL. It was a great night.

Yes, the web site looks great! Maybe someday I'll finish a book and get it published. Then have a web site of my own. In the meantime it's great to see others have such success!

My goal is always to have two cats. Theoretically they can keep one another company if someone is not hope that way. I have a firm rule that the cats should not out number the adult humans in the house. Several of my friends have so many cats and you can tell it from a long way a way from their houses you see.

When our last two who were also rescues died I waited as long as I possibly could stand it to get more. My husband was / perhaps still is, allergic and he was working a lot (he still is working a lot). I was working outside the home a lot. The kids went to public school then.

But Lord, each night I'd be on rescue web sites looking at the darlings. So one day I broke and had to get one. She's been lovely. I was waiting for another from Kansas. When we picked her up we had two. They were not kittens. They HATED each other.

Then a few years later this tiny pathetic cat started flirting with my husband when he was in the yard. We had to trap her. She made three. The other two said OMFG, I LOVE you to each other at that point and banded together against the new younger one. LMAO!

She is crazy. A muted calico with a lovely coat. She clearly has issues with woman but loves men. Me she seems to see as a potential toy or torturer depending on her stress level which turns on a dime. After a few years with us, she knows she is loved and I'm not as afraid of her killing one of the others with her sheer exuberance.

My heart however is a rescued Burmese. She is my lap and sleep buddy. I honestly miss her more than anyone else when I travel. She is my second Burmese. The first I paid a breeder for. When I think of the way American breeders have done this breed it really makes me furious. Both animals have had health problems but oh, their personalities!

The first cat rules the roost. She looks like Morris. She is famous for her head butts, purring and skunking ability. At least once a year she tries to teach us to hunt. She thinks we humans are pretty darn stupid in that regard.

Okay, must run for now!

*waves*


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/16/2007 1:02 PM

LOL about your lost post.  Been here too many times myself.  There was one book forum I used to belong to, and the software was a nightmare (which is why I gave up on that forum).  It lost so many of my posts that I got in the habbit of copying every post before I previewed it so I could paste it in again if something happened to it, and I still do that with all my forums just in case.

Did your book club ladies only read the Oprah selections?  The only one of those I read was White Oleander.  Wow!  Blew me away.  Excellent book, but a painful read for me....it hit waaaaaaay too close to home for me. 

Action...ah, that makes more sense.  I think sex scenes and action scenes are the most diffcult for everyone to write.  You have to develop a good sense of timing with action scenes.  And with sex scenes you want to find a new way to show and not tell.  That is why we don't like romance novels...too much cliche and telling.

No sex scenes in my novels (would be totally out of place), but I have written them years ago in some of my short stories.  Very little action in my novels, although there is some.  However there is a lot of action in the cat scenes, especially my latest novel-in-progress, which has a crazy kitten in it.  But there is always drama in my books. 

That is because I like drama and character development best in the novels I read.  Even with the dark urban fantasy novels, novels full of action like the Jim Butcher novels, my favorite parts are the ways the characters develop inside and grow, and the way the relationships between the characters form and grow.  My favorite is between Harry and the vamp Thomas.  Then between Harry and Karin Murphy.  So I find myself getting through the action scenes just so I can get to the personal parts, which I love best.  And Harry is such a hoot I am always laughing when I read those novels.

I knew you wrote poetry but I didn't realize you also wrote fiction.  Neat!  I'll bet you are writing about vampires, yes?!  I would love to see some of your work sometime.  You can send it to me at my email address laurastamps@mindspring.com and I would be happy to take a look at it.  Offer some pointers if you need them and if not suggest some magazine markets if it would work as a short story.

Thanks!  I'm glad you liked my website and the new design.  You could also get a blog just to document your thoughts and post parts of your writing now before you publish anything.  That would be fun, and blogger is so easy to use.  I only ran into trouble because I was updating my template from an old one, and they tell you upfront you will lose stuff when you do that, and I did.

That dress sounds great!  Wow.  yeah

By the way have you ever been to any of the fantasy cons?  How anbout Dragoncon in Atlanta?  Wow...best show ever and talk about costumes.  I loved every miniute of it and went for the first time last year.  Great show.

My goal is to have as many cats as I can without ending up in divorce court (grin).  I am the kind of person who loves lots of cats, probably because I have lots of mama cat in me, so I tend to think in litters.  lol

Burmese are very pretty cats.  I have advertised in Cat Fancy magazine off and on for the last 15 years, because most of my novel and poetry books readers are cat people.  And I was actually featured in an article in the April issue in 1996, and again in the Feb 2006 issue (the one with the Maine Coon on the cover) when they reviewed my latest poetry book THE YEAR OF THE CAT: NEW POEMS.  Anyway whenever I am in there or advertsing I usually get a subscription, and I just love how they profile a different breed with every issue.  Even if you have that breed you learn something new.  I remember when they profiled the Burmese breed last year...just gorgeous!  Do you get that mag?

My husband always freaks when a new cat joins our family, because all the other cats can't stand it.  But then in a month or two they are all chasing each other and scuffling and having a great time.  I had one cat who was very picky and just wouldn't eat much for 5 years until I got a sweet male.  From that first day she began to eat everything in sight and is on a diet now.  It's all about control.  Who will be the Queen of the indoor colony.  That is the burning question among cats, whether they live inside or out, because they are very social animals.

Got to run to the Linkedin site now.

Magickal blessings for a great weekend! 

 


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/17/2007 12:38 AM
Oh, I thought of another vampire series I enjoyed. The lead character is Jack Fleming. He is a vampire PI. The series is set in Gangland Chicago, 1937. P.N. Elrod wrote it. I don't like most of her vampire series the way I like this one. I wish I did because she has written at least two others.

I gave up on the lovely book club ladies when the next month they selected a slow paced whiny book of a dysfunctional family. So I really don't know what they based their picks on. I think it was called the Secret Lives of Bees. Is that an Oprah pick? I'm not an Oprah book fan at all. She likes things too sad and slow for my tastes.

I can just see the cat action scenes in my head!

When I was role playing online I had to really struggle to write action or violence well, like a fight scene. I'm a girl, so I'm all sweet. Of course they guys thought they knew all the "right moves" and I was scrambling to do research on kicks and punches. LOL!

That was a great way for me to build my writing skills. It also helped my confidence because so many would read my scenes and love what I wrote.

I don't write much poetry. I was challenged on a writing site to do so. Now it comes out of me every now and then without warning. Of course as a teen I wrote my fair share of love and teen angst poems! *L*

Right now I'm writing some children's books (about rescue pets AND some based on folk tales that haven't been made into picture books yet), an adult novel (about vampires) and other things online just for fun. That is when I write. Often I don't find the time or get writers block.

I may take you up on your generous offer! Thanks! I actually have one short story that people seem to think is pretty good. It's about vampires too.

I'm sort of afraid to blog. Why? Well my inner thoughts tend to be sarcastic and I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Aren't I terrible?

Yes, years ago I went to some of the smaller cons. Some, at that time featured free beer in the hospitality suites! That was a HUGE consideration for all my guy gamer buddies.

I wore some interesting costumes myself. *chuckles* It was a chance to let loose.

I liked the gaming contests. Just to game really, I hate being in a competition.

I once did submit a short story at one though. I didn't win. I think the resolution was a little too subtle for anyone to "get it". Of course to me it was obvious. I learned a lesson!

Yes, I love the way a Burmese looks. Of course all our cats are awfully beautiful. One has white eye liner around her eyes. Something I've tried lately to good effect. Another looks like a stormy cloud.

I don't get any magazines at all. Unless my in laws or mom bring them to me. That sounds like great marketing though for you! Congrats! I may try to find that issue now that I know about it!

People don't realize just how social cats can be. They get this rep for being all aloof. Well, ours were abandoned. They are VERY people centric. I adore that they seem to care so much!

Let me see if I can upload some pictures!


bleacheddecay


Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/17/2007 6:47 PM
I found my missing post. It was in a (No Subject) thread. Ugh! How did I do that? LOL. I've deleted it now. *hit head on desk*


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/18/2007 9:21 AM

The Secret Life of Bees by Sue Monk Kidd (I think).  She is a SC author (I think, again) and all the rage down here.  Her new book is The Mermaid Chair.  I think the first book vaguely introduced the notion of the Goddess, and the second book may be more of the same?  I don't know for sure.  Not my thing (in that I like a strong dose of the Goddess not a vague one).

I would love to see your story!  Send it to me when you are ready.  I belong to several SF&F forums, and a really big one called Chronicles Network (www.chronicles-network.com) has a fabulous section for "Aspiring Authors" where you can submit a piece for critque or review.  I love to cruise that section whenever I am there and offer editing tips, etc., for the pieces that are posted.  Editing is one of my favorite parts of writing.

Do you still have the story you sent to the con that no one got because the ending was too subtle?  I would love to see that one too.  Sounds like fun.  I adore subtle endings.

What gorgeous kitties!!!  Thanks for the pics.  I have been taking lots of pictures of the kittens in my garage, because they grow so fast, and in a few weeks they will be ready for adoption.  But I don't have a digital camera, and prefer the old fashioned photos I can put in one of my kitty albums and mail to friends and carry in my purse to show EVERYONE (lol...watch out when you see me coming!!).  I even take pictures of my gardens (yep, they are in my purse too).  smilewinkgrin

Yesterday at the grocery store they had a bunch of books on sale, and I bought two that were priced so low I couldn't resist.  Dime Store Magic and Industrial Magic by Kelley Armstrong.  She isn't on my TBR list, so I know nothing about her, but the novels are about Witches so I took a chance.  Turns out when I asked some of my Yahoo book group people many said they had read her novels series and loved it.  Have you ever read these books?  What did you think?


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/18/2007 6:35 PM
I agree, I do not like a mere suggestion of the goddess either.

When I get a chance I may send it to you then! Thanks!

Yes, I'm sure I have a copy of that other story. I'd have to type it into the computer after I dug it out.

I have read one or two books by Kelley Armstrong. They were about werewolves. I had those same books recommended to me but looked up what she'd written first. I didn't like these books too much. It's something to do with her lead character's anger (not that I usually mind angry characters but this one just rang "wrong" to me, and writing style that puts me off.

I love pictures of cats. Did you know if you click on them they enlarge? The first one is really funny looking. May my cat forgive me for showing that one! I LOVE having a digital camera! You can print them out too you know. I'd love to see yours!

However, the books about witches might be better. I may still try them. They come highly recommended to me as well.


bleacheddecay


Posted By : Laura Stamps - 6/19/2007 7:32 AM

You're right...that first cat photo is a scream!  What a precious fat belly!  lol

Thanks for your input on the Kelley Armstrong books.  It seems people either love them or didn't like them at all.  I especially hear that about the first two in the series, which are the ones you read.

I just started Guilty Pleasures by Laurell K. Hamilton this morning.  Starts off kind of slow, but I expect it to pick up soon.

Thanks for your story...wonderful to see it in my email this morning when I turned on my computer!!!  I have an ipod interview today.  This is my first ipod interview, so it should be fun, but that means it has to be a phone interview, so I probably won't be able to read your story until tonight.  I usually do email interviews, which means I can answer a question and then do something else on computer while I am waiting for the next question to come in.  Although newspapers prefer phone interviews as well.

But I will get back to you tomorrow morning about the story for sure.  Thanks so much for the background info on it.  I am not a gamer so I would have been totally lost.  This story will be so much fun...I am soooo looking forward to reading it!!  :-)


Laura Stamps
"Magickal Urban Fantasy Novels (Collectible, small press, signed editions)"
Kittyfeather Press

Posted By : bleacheddecay - 6/19/2007 11:47 AM
My pleasure. I hope you like it. I've got a busy day today so I'll make this short.

I sometimes find that I like only certain sections of some writers work. It could be that I will love her witch books. I didn't hate her werewolf books. I just found them a bit off for me.

Hamilton's book got my blood going as soon as she said the guy across the desk looked pretty good to her for a dead guy. LOL! I was so on board after that. I didn't feel like it was slow at all.

Okay, have to run.

*waves*


bleacheddecay