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Posted By : gwthomas21 - 3/3/2007 8:34 PM
I just started PERSIAN FIRe by Tom Holland which covers the Greek-Persian Wars. I wanted to get some historical perspective before I see THE 300 in the theater. The movie is just about the battle of Thermopolae when 300 Spartans held the pass against the Persians. This book covers that battle, Maraton, Salamis, the entire war. Good, so far.

GW


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Posted By : von Darkmoor - 3/4/2007 1:36 AM
and here I went and used my last Netflix choice on The 300 Spartans www.imdb.com/title/tt0055719/. Somehow, I think you got the better end of things. cool


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Posted By : Bill Ward - 3/4/2007 1:56 AM
Sounds good. You ought to read the relevant chapters in Herodotus too GW if you haven't, its highly readable and one of our principal sources for the period.

The 300 Spartans is a classic Howard, enjoy :)

I also recommend Pressfield's novel Gates of Fire -- an awesome account of the battle.

Posted By : che2000 - 3/4/2007 8:23 PM
The Spartans by Paul Cartledge is a good general history of Sparta, very readable and informative.

I recently bought and watched The 300 Spartans - great movie in the grand Hollywood manner.


 
 


Posted By : gwthomas21 - 3/7/2007 10:53 AM
I'm half-way through PERSIAN FIRE now and can highly recommend it. Holland takes the time to outline the history of both sides of the war. You get a grip on where the Persians were coming from and the Greeks. Bottom line neither side was really "the good guys". It's like a contest between two bullies. Still, the ramifications for Western Civilization (culture?) was huge. If Greece had become a Persian suburb things would have been very different. A similar crisis would take place in the days of Charlemagne (I was reading in Kenneth Clark's CIVILIZATION). Western civilization almost lost all record of the Greek contribution then. These crisises happened every so often.

GW


G. W. Thomas has appeared in over 350 different books, magazines and ezines includig Writer's Digest, The Armchair Detective and Black October Magazine. He draws the web comic CHUCK THE PENGUIN. His website is www.gwthomas.org


Posted By : tchernabyelo - 3/13/2007 10:42 AM
"A similar crisis would take place in the days of Charlemagne (I was reading in Kenneth Clark's CIVILIZATION). Western civilization almost lost all record of the Greek contribution then."
 
Actually, a great deal of Greek and Roman learnign was (effectively) lost to "Western Civilisation" for a few hundred years (in fact, much of it was preserved, just lurking in various monasteries where it wasn't allowed out).   Come the Renaissance, however, much of it re-emerged - but as well as coming out of those same monasteries, it also came by way of the East, since vast quantities of Greek and Roman texts had been preserved and copied in Baghdad, which spent about five or six hundred years acting as the "keeper of the Flame" for ancient knowledge.


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