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| Posted By : tchernabyelo - 11/21/2007 1:47 PM | | I keep an eye on Duotrope's "What's New" feature as a way of finding out about new markets and noticed this one pop up the other day. http://www.serpentari.us/
First issue out January 2008.
"Welcome to Serpentarius Magazine. We are a Speculative Fiction market. Speculative means genres like Science Fiction, Fantasy, Horror, Fear, Steampunk, Alternate Worlds, Sword and Sorcery, and any other similar trope. Or tripe, as the case may be."
Stories up to 5k. Pro rates for stories over flash length. I've already subbed...
Editor is N E Dix, a name I haven't come across before.
Brian Dolton
Yi Qin stories:
"The Box Of Beautiful Things" - IGMS#3
"The Man Who Was Never Afraid" - Abyss and Apex #20
"Where No Wind Blows" - Staffs & Starships #2 (forthcoming)
"What The Sea Refuses" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"At Blue Crane Falls" - Abyss and Apex (forthcoming)
Other Land Of Wind And Ghosts stories:
"The Dragon Path" - Fictitious Force (forthcoming)
"Three Out Of Four" - Sorcerous Signals (forthcoming)
Stories in other settings:
"The Unicorn Hunter" - OG's Speculative Fiction #8
"When Winter Came" - ASIM#32 (forthcoming)
"Cold Fire" - Flashing Swords (forthcoming) |
| Posted By : Jordan Lapp - 11/21/2007 5:34 PM | Thanks for the tip!
Jordan Lapp
Managing Editor
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| Posted By : Daniel - 11/22/2007 3:55 PM | AH, fresh meat!
"Art is the celebration of the ego's destruction."
Daniel |
| Posted By : Bill Ward - 11/29/2007 5:48 PM | I always balk at the permanent net archive thing, diffuses my interest in a lot of ezines.
But I like the broad interest in stories they have in their guidelines, looks like a market to watch.
billwardwriter.com |
| Posted By : Jordan Lapp - 11/29/2007 6:10 PM | Most zines (like EDF) will take down your story after a set period of time if you ask, but I don't know why it's a big deal. If you're printed in a book, it's available for all time, isn't it?
Jordan Lapp
Managing Editor
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| Posted By : Gustavo - 11/30/2007 12:13 AM | | Just finished sending in a story - will let everyone know how it goes! |
| Posted By : Bill Ward - 11/30/2007 8:12 AM | Jordan Lapp said...
Most zines (like EDF) will take down your story after a set period of time if you ask, but I don't know why it's a big deal. If you're printed in a book, it's available for all time, isn't it?
Not for free with a google search.
I have no-problem with ezines that specify the minimum length of their archiving and let you take it down at any time after that, but I do see many that want archival rights in perpetuity.
billwardwriter.com |
| Posted By : Dragon Angel - 11/30/2007 11:27 PM | I kind of like the idea of it being up forever, as long as I have the rights to publish it again if I like to. That way there is another reference to my name somewhere on the internet.
read free fiction and poetry at http://www.geocities.com/davidolson22/index.html
Part dark, part light. And gooey in the middle. |
| Posted By : Bill Ward - 12/1/2007 7:23 AM | Well, my thinking is that no one knows what will happen to a magazine down the road. Say it comes under new management, and is ruined. With a traditional magazine your story is somewhere back in the past, in a discreet package, shouldered up alongside all the other stories of that era, maybe even out of print. With an online magazine its always 'current,' even if its back aways in the archive its only a click away from all the stuff on the front page...and if that stuff all goes inexplicably bad, your story is suddenly in bed with it.
billwardwriter.com |
| Posted By : Jordan Lapp - 12/1/2007 4:35 PM | That is why you ask to have your story taken down, Bill. Nearly every magazine will do that for you.
Jordan Lapp
Managing Editor
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| Posted By : Bill Ward - 12/1/2007 5:24 PM | If that was the case, why not say that in their rights purchased? What they say: "Non-exclusive Electronic Rights. After the initial issue, your story will be available as a part of the Serpentarius website back catalog." Not a word about taking it down when asked.
They aren't by any means the most stringent, I have seen many e-zines that actually specify permanent/indefinite archiving. Which is the only reason I brought it up.
billwardwriter.com |
| Posted By : erazmus - Today 3:21 PM | Well I submitted to Serpentarius a bit back, we'll see how it goes, I have _no_ sense of what they want at all, so I sent the best I had.
The perpetual archive thing is a bit much. It is damn hard to sell a reprint to another market if it is up and available, for free, all ready. Of course, the big benefit of reprints is keepig your name out where people can see it, and the archive kind of acomplishes that. But not as good as a new ToC does.
Mike
Michael D. Turner
"Psyched Up" in _Turn the other Chick_-ed. E. Friesner-Baen books
www.baen.com
"Dutchman Rescue"in Continuum SF #6
www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm
"An Incident at Black Tongue Tavern" in _Bash Down the Door and Slice Open the Badguy_ from Fantasist Enterprises:
www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php
"Stains" in Tales of the Talisman 3-1 www.zianet.com/hadrosaur/index.html
"Slushpiles" in Between the Kisses
www.samsdotpublishing.com/betweenkisses/TurnerSlushPileS.htm |
| Posted By : RHFay - Today 3:35 PM | While reprints are nice, what's wrong with just writing new material? Doesn't that say more about your abilities anyway?
I kind of like this perpetual archive thing myself. I can post links on my "list of publications" on my web site, and visitors to my site can go and read the poems on the various web sites.
I actually did send a poem to Serpentarius. It was actually a poem with a serpentine theme (purely by chance, mind you), so it was an interesting thing to submit to them . We'll see how it goes.
"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" Andrew of Armar.
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| Posted By : Lyn - Today 3:40 PM | Yeah, submitting reprints in the day of online archives is an interesting issue. My thought in favor is that a second or third go-round with a different zine exposes your work to a wider audience. The drawback is that your readers might travel in the same circles as you do and see your work a second time someplace else...which isn't bad, but if you have a site that your fans visit, then they already know your piece. Thus the need for new material.
Any other thoughts on reprints in this current era of seemingly perpetual online archives?
Lyn from ResAliens |
| Posted By : RHFay - Today 3:52 PM | In terms of poetry, I can certainly create new poems to send to other venues to garner interest in my work. Many places allow you to post or print your web site address, which can lead readers to my other works already on-line.
Of course, getting reprints in various venues gets you more readers, but so does getting new material published in various venues.
Now, I may eventually want to do a chapbook or collection of my poetry. In that case I worry a bit about the consequences of perpetual on-line archives. I haven't looked into the idea enough to say how much one would effect the other.
Most of my pieces can't even be sent out as reprints yet anyway.
"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" Andrew of Armar.
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| Posted By : erazmus - Today 3:52 PM | Goodness, I never said, or implied in anyway, that I submit reprints in lieu of new material! Stories go out as they are finished, and stay out until they are sold. And as the rights revert, they go out again. Everything I write is either in submission, awaiting publication, available somewhere, or waiting for the rights to revert.
A reprint doesn't take any work, other than e-mailing a file and waiting a response. Its done, edited, polished, ready for print. They don't cut into my writing time, they just take up space on my submissions spreadsheet.
Mike
Michael D. Turner
"Psyched Up" in _Turn the other Chick_-ed. E. Friesner-Baen books
www.baen.com
"Dutchman Rescue"in Continuum SF #6
www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm
"An Incident at Black Tongue Tavern" in _Bash Down the Door and Slice Open the Badguy_ from Fantasist Enterprises:
www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php
"Stains" in Tales of the Talisman 3-1 www.zianet.com/hadrosaur/index.html
"Slushpiles" in Between the Kisses
www.samsdotpublishing.com/betweenkisses/TurnerSlushPileS.htm |
| Posted By : Jordan Lapp - Today 5:09 PM | You guys must have sent too much work and overwhelmed the poor guy. Apparently, they're closing to new subs on December 10th.
Jordan Lapp
Managing Editor
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| Posted By : RHFay - Today 6:18 PM |
erazmus said...Goodness, I never said, or implied in anyway, that I submit reprints in lieu of new material! Stories go out as they are finished, and stay out until they are sold. And as the rights revert, they go out again. Everything I write is either in submission, awaiting publication, available somewhere, or waiting for the rights to revert. A reprint doesn't take any work, other than e-mailing a file and waiting a response. Its done, edited, polished, ready for print. They don't cut into my writing time, they just take up space on my submissions spreadsheet. Mike
Oh, I wasn't really implying that you sent reprints in lieu of new material, just that I personally think new material is more important than reprints.
I'm not even to the point that I can send out reprints anyway, so maybe I'm not giving the consideration of reprints much thought at all. Maybe I should. Of course, some places don't take reprints. so that's another point to consider.
I work in a similar way, though - everything I've done is pretty much awaiting a response, awaiting publication, or published somewhere. If it gets rejected one place, I send it to another, and then another, and then another , and then...
"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" Andrew of Armar.
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| Posted By : tchernabyelo - 12/6/2007 7:18 AM |
Jordan Lapp said...You guys must have sent too much work and overwhelmed the poor guy. Apparently, they're closing to new subs on December 10th.
Any new market that turns up on Ralan's and Duotrope and pays pro rates is going to be deluged with everyone's trunk stories.
Submission windows used to annoy me, but frankly, I'm a convert now - I'd rather a magazine closed its doors and waded through the slush till it catches up. Frustrating though it is, it's worse to be sitting on subs that have been out for 300+ days with no idea of whether they've even got to a slush reader yet...
I haven't heard back on my submission yet. Duotrope shows 20 outstanding submissions and 5 responses sent out. That probably means anywhere between 100 and 1000 actual submissions have gone there.
Brian Dolton
Yi Qin stories:
"The Box Of Beautiful Things" - IGMS#3
"The Man Who Was Never Afraid" - Abyss and Apex #20
"Where No Wind Blows" - Staffs & Starships #2 (forthcoming)
"What The Sea Refuses" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"At Blue Crane Falls" - Abyss and Apex (forthcoming)
"What The Heart Bears" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
Other Land Of Wind And Ghosts stories:
"The Dragon Path" - Fictitious Force (forthcoming)
"Three Out Of Four" - Sorcerous Signals (forthcoming)
Stories in other settings:
"The Unicorn Hunter" - OG's Speculative Fiction #8
"When Winter Came" - ASIM#32 (forthcoming)
"Cold Fire" - Flashing Swords (forthcoming)
"Call Centre" - Necrotic Tissue (forthcoming) |
| Posted By : DraperJC - 12/10/2007 12:54 AM | I got a submission in just under the deadline. As luck would have it, I just finished up a story and they seemed like a good fit. (Even though we really don't know much about what they publish, or will publish as the case may be.)
Joshua 24:15b "As for me and my house..."
My blog, full of writing lessons, reviews, and the occasional travelogue: Scriptorius Rex |
| Posted By : tchernabyelo - 12/17/2007 9:51 AM | My rejection arrived over the weekend.
Brian Dolton
Yi Qin stories:
"The Box Of Beautiful Things" - IGMS#3
"The Man Who Was Never Afraid" - Abyss and Apex #20
"Where No Wind Blows" - Staffs & Starships #2 (forthcoming)
"What The Sea Refuses" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"At Blue Crane Falls" - Abyss and Apex (forthcoming)
"What The Heart Bears" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
Other Land Of Wind And Ghosts stories:
"The Dragon Path" - Fictitious Force (forthcoming)
"Three Out Of Four" - Sorcerous Signals (forthcoming)
Stories in other settings:
"The Unicorn Hunter" - OG's Speculative Fiction #8
"When Winter Came" - ASIM#32 (forthcoming)
"Cold Fire" - Flashing Swords (forthcoming)
"Call Centre" - Necrotic Tissue (forthcoming) |
| Posted By : Camille Alexa - 1/25/2008 4:08 PM |
Anybody heard anything solid from these guys lately?
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| Posted By : RHFay - 1/25/2008 5:53 PM | I received this automatic acknowledgment on Dec 3rd, the same day my submission was sent:
:SUBMISSION:RECEIVED:QUEUED:NK:
:MESSAGE:
You can expect a reply within five weeks. Thank you for submitting to
Serpentarius. N. E. Dix, Editor
:END:
I'll give them another couple of weeks, and then I'll send a query.
"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" Andrew of Armar.
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions
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| Posted By : RHFay - 2/27/2008 5:52 PM | |
I sent Serpentarius a query on February 2nd inquiring about the status of my submission sent on December 3rd, and haven't received a response yet.
It seems like they have quite a bit of slush to wade through. Maybe they need a snow shovel! 
"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!"
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions
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| Posted By : RHFay - 2/28/2008 3:10 PM |
erazmus said...I don't mind the wait if they say yes, I just hate it when they say no. Mike
What I hate the most is when they don't say anything at all. Although, it is easier to take a long wait if the answer is eventually yes.
"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!"
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions
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| Posted By : Christopher_Heath - 3/1/2008 7:35 PM | | I forget what story I sent, but it was a trunk story because all my A list tales in that word range were already out. Got a rejection of course, but they noted they really liked my style and to keep submitting, so that was nice. The rejection was quite awhile ago, so don't take that as a sign they are active at the moment (I have no idea).
Edit: I shouldn't say "trunk story", more like a B list story.
Christopher M. Heath
"Azieran: Ghost Crane by Sunset" in Paper Blossoms, Sharpened Steel by FE
"Azieran: Kaiburr the Rotund" in Strange Worlds of Lunacy Antho by CyberAliens
"Azieran: Claimed by Birthright" in Return of the Sword by Flashing Swords Press
"Azieran: Oathbreaker's Promise" in Flashing Swords
"Azieran: The Hollow Kings" in Flashing Swords
"Azieran: Adairos" in Tower of Light Fantasy
"Azieran: Savior in a Flask" in Magic and Mechanica by Ricasso Press
"Azieran: The Travelers Four" in Black Dragon, White Dragon by Ricasso Press
"Azieran: The Breaking of Hell's Bones" in Black Sails by 1018 Press
"Azieran: Distilling the Essence" in Sails and Sorcery by Fantasist Enterprises
+ others
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| Posted By : DraperJC - 4/6/2008 9:38 PM | Well, I submitted a story on 12/09/07 and go the same automated acknowledgment as above. Still haven't heard anything back. I thought I waited well past the five weeks and then sent a request for status but couldn't find anything in my 'sent' or 'writing' folder. Anyhow, I sent another request for status to them today. It's been almost 4 months so we'll see what happens.
I hope I get word soon because this is a story that I originally intended to submit elsewhere but they were closed for subs. Now that market is about to open back up.
Joshua 24:15b "As for me and my house..."
My blog, full of writing lessons, reviews, and the occasional travelogue: Scriptorius Rex |
| Posted By : RHFay - 4/7/2008 12:23 PM | I was actually going to ask if anyone heard from Serpentarius recently. I haven't heard back regarding my query sent February 2nd regarding a poem submitted to them on December 3rd.
As I said earlier, no reply at all is the worst. I've seen a few markets like that (mostly literary) - no reply if it's a rejection. Some state that they don't reply to rejections in their guidelines, while with others you just have to make that assumption.
Crazy, I tell you, crazy! 
"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!"
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions
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| Posted By : Daniel Ausema - 4/7/2008 1:41 PM | I'm in the same boat waiting since early December :-(
Twigs and Brambles (my writing blog) |
| Posted By : SilviaMG - 4/7/2008 3:51 PM | | I also queried, since I was waiting since the beginning of December, and received no answer. I sent an e-mail withdrawing my story recently and got a reply to that one in which they acknowledge my withdrawal. I'm not sure what's going on with this market but that's the bit of info I have to share. |
| Posted By : Michael Anthony - 4/8/2008 1:49 PM | |
I subbed to Serpentarius in November 2007, queried at the end of January 2008 per their guidelines, got no response. At this point I am wondering if they are a dead market. Does anyone have any insight into this?
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| Posted By : Jordan Lapp - 4/8/2008 4:05 PM | | Might be another Noctem Aeternus. I hope not, but at this point it's difficult to discern their profit model.
Duotrope reports the last response received on 16 December.
Apparently 25% of their submissions have been withdrawn by the author with another 12.5% being "assumed rejections" (ie no word received). Those are pretty rough numbers.
Jordan Lapp
Managing Editor
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| Posted By : Camille Alexa - 4/8/2008 8:26 PM |
Jordan Lapp said...
Might be another Noctem Aeternus. I hope not, but at this point it's difficult to discern their profit model.
Duotrope reports the last response received on 16 December.
Apparently 25% of their submissions have been withdrawn by the author with another 12.5% being "assumed rejections" (ie no word received). Those are pretty rough numbers.
I also submitted a story Dec. 1. got an acknowledment Dec. 2 promising an anwer within 5 weeks, then nothing, including no response to a query.
I'd call them another Sniplets.
As Jordan says, those are rough numbers.
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| Posted By : DraperJC - 4/8/2008 10:59 PM | I understand things taking a while to respond to each author when you've got a staff of one or two. What makes me scratch my head the most is the lack of movement on their site. You'd think a new market would want to provide general updates or something in this world of hyper-interactivity.
Joshua 24:15b "As for me and my house..."
My blog, full of writing lessons, reviews, and the occasional travelogue: Scriptorius Rex |
| Posted By : Michael Anthony - 4/9/2008 7:31 AM |
Camille Alexa said...
Jordan Lapp said...
Might be another Noctem Aeternus. I hope not, but at this point it's difficult to discern their profit model.
Duotrope reports the last response received on 16 December.
Apparently 25% of their submissions have been withdrawn by the author with another 12.5% being "assumed rejections" (ie no word received). Those are pretty rough numbers.
I also submitted a story Dec. 1. got an acknowledment Dec. 2 promising an anwer within 5 weeks, then nothing, including no response to a query.
I'd call them another Sniplets.
As Jordan says, those are rough numbers.
What happened with Sniplets? I've heard of folks having their stories accepted by them, and Duo shows their most recent activity at March 25th, 2008.
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| Posted By : TL Morganfield - 4/9/2008 9:11 AM | I've had something with them since late November and my multiple queries have gone unanswered. I haven't quite grown impatient enough to withdraw yet. Every time I try to download the first issue, Acrobat gives me an error message and it can't display the document, so maybe I should take that as a sign that it's time to move onto a market where I can actually read the material they're publishing.
www.tlmorganfield.com
The Feathered Serpent's Nest (Blog)
One World stories:
"Night Bird Soaring" in GUD, issue #3 (forthcoming)
"What Makes Us Strong" in Atomjack, November 2007
"The Last Arabian Prince" in Atomjack, November 2006
"Dedication" in Dragons, Knights & Angels, also available in Distant Passages 2.
Sixth Sun Rising stories:
"Ancient Artifacts" in Tales of Moreauvia (forthcoming)
"Love, Blood and Octi" in Paradox, October 2007
"The Divine Conquest of Mexico" in Sorcerous Signals, August 2007
Non-series fiction:
"My Sweet Andromache" in Nanobison, (forthcoming)
"So Weeps the Thunderbird" in Lilith Unbound, (forthcoming |
| Posted By : Daniel Ausema - 4/10/2008 10:03 AM | They're still alive! I just received a rejection this morning. For what it's worth, it was a very friendly rejection that clearly showed they'd read the story, and it included this apology/explanation: "Sorry for the late reply, we were buried in submissions, and we lost two of our junior editors." I believe my submission went in on November 29, so presumably the rest of us waiting from early December submissions should hear as they get unburied. So despite the rejection, this is good news!
Twigs and Brambles (my writing blog) |
| Posted By : TL Morganfield - 4/10/2008 11:09 AM | Excellent news! I sent mine on the 28th of November, so hopefully soon.
www.tlmorganfield.com
The Feathered Serpent's Nest (Blog)
One World stories:
"Night Bird Soaring" in GUD, issue #3 (forthcoming)
"What Makes Us Strong" in Atomjack, November 2007
"The Last Arabian Prince" in Atomjack, November 2006
"Dedication" in Dragons, Knights & Angels, also available in Distant Passages 2.
Sixth Sun Rising stories:
"Ancient Artifacts" in Tales of Moreauvia (forthcoming)
"Love, Blood and Octi" in Paradox, October 2007
"The Divine Conquest of Mexico" in Sorcerous Signals, August 2007
Non-series fiction:
"My Sweet Andromache" in Nanobison, (forthcoming)
"So Weeps the Thunderbird" in Lilith Unbound, (forthcoming |
| Posted By : RHFay - 4/10/2008 12:14 PM | Yeah, I just received a rejection, too. They had a few personal comments regarding the piece sent.
"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!"
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions
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| Posted By : SilviaMG - 4/20/2008 11:52 AM | | The Serpentarius website is down. There is a notice saying it was hacked. FYI for people waiting for a reply. |
| Posted By : SilviaMG - 4/20/2008 9:33 PM | "Same thing happened recently to a couple of web-sites for print zines, Dark Discoveries and City Slab, IIRC. Wonder if there is a frustrated Writer/hacker hacked off because his hack writing got rejected, hacking his or her way to vengance?"
Or gremlins bent on chewing the Internet. When looking for rational or irrational explanation I choose the irrational. :) |
| Posted By : DraperJC - 5/21/2008 12:44 AM | Web site appears to be back up in a different format. Pretty sparse. I still haven't heard back about my submission and it's now been 5 months.
Joshua 24:15b "As for me and my house..."
My blog, full of writing lessons, reviews, and the occasional travelogue: Scriptorius Rex |
| Posted By : DraperJC - 6/1/2008 1:57 PM | Sent an email to the editor today and withdrew my story. Not really sure what's going on over there but I've got to move along.
Joshua 24:15b "As for me and my house..."
My blog, full of writing lessons, reviews, and the occasional travelogue: Scriptorius Rex |
| Posted By : TL Morganfield - 7/4/2008 1:05 PM | As an update, their front page now says the website will be up at the beginning of August and the new issue out in September, and they will be reopen to subs from July 15th to August 5th. However, if you've been waiting to hear on a sub from them, they're saying to just assume it was rejected.
www.tlmorganfield.com
The Feathered Serpent's Nest (Blog)
One World stories:
"Night Bird Soaring" in GUD, issue #3 (forthcoming)
"What Makes Us Strong" in Atomjack, November 2007
"The Last Arabian Prince" in Atomjack, November 2006
"Dedication" in Dragons, Knights & Angels, also available in Distant Passages 2.
Sixth Sun Rising stories:
"Ancient Artifacts" in Tales of Moreauvia (forthcoming)
"Love, Blood and Octi" in Paradox, October 2007
"The Divine Conquest of Mexico" in Sorcerous Signals, August 2007
Non-series fiction:
"My Sweet Andromache" in Nanobison, (forthcoming)
"So Weeps the Thunderbird" in Lilith Unbound, (forthcoming |
| Posted By : crystalwizard - 7/4/2008 7:34 PM | >Lance Murdoc is no longer associated with Serpentarius.
wonder what Lance did...
Never meddle in the affairs of a wizard unless you are soggy and hard to light!
Cyberwizard Productions |
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