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Posted By : nathan - 4/8/2008 4:16 PM
As an industry standard for inclusion in pro writing orgs the minimal advance on a novel is 2 thousand dollars. Probablly, roughly, 8-12k is an average ballparked figure for a mmpb deal with 20k being "good" and points north being better as you go.
 
What does this shake out to with a Chapter Book Reader for ages 7-12? Is there a minimal "pro" level and if so what is it? How does the book being nonfiction affect that.
 
I'm finding this a bit of a will 'o wisp to track down on the i-net. I don't know if I'm putting the wrong buzz words into my google search or if this info is just uncommon. But either way if anyone had an even general guess-timate I'd appreciate it.
 
Thanks much guys.


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Posted By : Hermit - 4/9/2008 1:13 PM
Have you tried googling a writers organization dedicated to writers of children's fiction? idea


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Posted By : nathan - 4/9/2008 1:22 PM
Thanks D. I'm looking for a weather report and you tell me to open a window up and look outside turn
 
What I ended up with was 2 formulas that prob equal the same. The first one is they figure out a print run then you get 7-10% of that as an advance.
 
The second is that "they" pay advance, not royalties with 2-5k being the ballpark range but often dipping as low as 1 grand. But since we're talking as little as 30 pages its still not horrible.


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Posted By : crystalwizard - 4/9/2008 2:26 PM
I thought chapbooks were primarily put out on the cheapest scale possible?


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Posted By : nathan - 4/9/2008 2:44 PM
crystalwizard said...
I thought chapbooks were primarily put out on the cheapest scale possible?
Sure?
 I don't think I'm getting the question in your statement.


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Posted By : Hermit - 4/9/2008 4:22 PM

The thread title seems to confuse the issue a bit.

Chapbooks are table-top books of relatively low quality that those of us savvy to it can cook up at home for cheap.

Chapter Books are short, usually illustrated, books for small children.

Some people confuse the two. But it's pretty obvious when the price comes into play. Chapbooks tend to run under or close to $7.00 per copy, whereas Chapter Books tend to cost much more. You might say that the Suess collection are Chapter Books.

Of course, the best chapbook I've seen was something called The Caine Agenda or something like that . . . Darn good novella. Very nice presentation, too. Too bad it's out of print . . .

crystalwizard said...
I thought chapbooks were primarily put out on the cheapest scale possible?


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Posted By : nathan - 4/9/2008 4:26 PM
MysticWino said...

Of course, the best chapbook I've seen was something called The Caine Agenda or something like that . . . Darn good novella. Very nice presentation, too. Too bad it's out of print . . .

Well sort of. Now Bolan kills him. Still, as long as it can inspire, even if only partially, a kick ass SoC lit story about a psyopathic assassin, I'm happy the spirit isn't dead.


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