Ron Paul supporters did a November 5th fund drive in honor of the movie, V for Vendetta, and he wound up with 4.3 million in a single day. They plan to do an even bigger one on Dec. 15th in honor of the Boston Tea Party.

Oh, and with Ron Paul, you won't have to worry about those taxes, because he plans to eliminate the IRS and replace it with nothing. Like I said, my kinda candidate.

I had a big long post, and wouldn't you know it, the blasted wireless wonked out on me.

Check out www.ronpaul2008.com

You might not agree with everything about the guy, but I bet you'll like him way better than any of the current candidates. People from all political persuasions are rallying to the guy: conservatives, liberals, Libertarians, Democrats, Republicans, hehe even anarchists like me.

Even though the Supreme Court stated in 2003 that the 16th Amendment was never ratified by the required number of states to make it a legal amendment? Even though the Tax Code uses the term "voluntary compliance" instead of "mandatory requirement"? Even though three Supreme Court Rulings in 1916, 1917, and 1919 (none of which have been overturned) stated that the 16th Amendment does not give the government any new powers of taxation not already allowed by the Constitution and that a direct, unapportioned tax is Unconstitutional?

Also the Supreme Court defined income in the Constitution as Capital Gains and defined monies earned from labor or a service to be private property.

And why have so few been able to fight the IRS over this issue? Well, kind of hard to hire a good lawyer when the IRS just siezes everything you own and the smaller courts don't allow you to defend yourself with the above Supreme Court rulings.

And the word you're looking for to describe what you believe in (which, by the way, is also the Constitutional view) is Anti-Federalism. Federalism supports a large central government at the expense of the individual States. Anti-Federalism supports a small central government and allows the States their Constitutional rights.

When Ron Paul talks about the Fed, he's talking about the Federal government, not the State governments. And other times he's just referring to the Federal Reserve System in particular.

I definitely agree with you on that.

In addition to following RP's campaign, me (and many of his supporters) are paying close attention to which politicians come out and endorse him, etc. whether they be Repubs, Dems, Libertarians or whichever, so we can make a list on who to vote for if any of them decide to run for Congress or Senate, etc. (or try to keep in if they're already there).

Um, there are very few trends I see in terms of the US turning into anything remotely resembling Nazi Germany.   Nazi Germany basically put its entire military-industrial complex at the disposal of the government.   What the US has done in the post-Reagan, post-Cold War years is the percise opposite of that.

America has a lot of problems - trade deficit, personal debt, resource shortages - but the idea that removing the IRS will somehow be an improvement is... interesting.   If you want to live in a rehash of the 18th century, some balmy dream of the frontier/pioneer nation of omni-competent self-reliant outdoorsmen, yes, get rid of taxation.   If you actually want to live in a world with electricity and running water, you may find things need to be handled a little differently.

Google the following, tchernabyelo:

Project for a New American Century

Security and Prosperity Partnership for North America

Building the North American Community

North American Union

the Amero

Patriot Act I

Patriot Act II

Military Commisions Act

There's also a crapload of executive orders whose numbers I can't remember off the top of my head. Not all forms of fascism resembles Nazi Germany exactly.

"Real ID" Act

RFID Chips

Here's another interesting thing to check out:

http://www.ronpauldvdproject.com/themovie.php

Thie above link is without all my "conspiracy theory" stuff.

Y'know, there used to be a time when I never believed in conspiracies. But that was before I read the PNAC document and watched some speeches at CFR meetings. When they overtly use terms like Pax Americana and New World Order, then you know things are screwed up.

There is some good news, though. Many States have rejected accepting the National ID card, and a whole bunch of cities in Texas have flat-out stated that they will not allow the NAFTA Superhighway to go through their jurisdictions. And Congress voted unanimously to put a hold on the North American Union plan. Apparently, they're ticked that Bush tried to form the NAU without their knowledge or approval.

I wasn't saying we're like Nazi Germany yet (if that's how it sounded, I apologize), just heading in that direction. Our current state is eerily similar to that of the Weimer Republic back in '31-'32. Just trade Blackwater USA for the brownshirts and you'll see what I mean (they were employed in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. They also recently received a 6 billion dollar contract to do more "security" operations here in the States).

But I am glad someone other than me on this forum is aware of the NAU plans. I have noticed that people overseas know more about it than people here at home.

"Indeed, the more the Republican party moves to align itself with the Neo-Con world-view, the more it loses the support of the more libertarian elements of its base."

True. But a lot of people are returning to the Republican party just to vote for Ron Paul, the only repub candidate with Libertarian values (He ran once before as a Libertarian back in '88). The Libertarian Party, Constitution Party, and Green Party have endorsed him and said they won't run a candidate if he gets the Republican nomination (instead they'll encourage all their party members to vote for him).

Quick question: what do you know about the fractional reserve system used by central banks?

Not a woman -- that woman. (Hillary). People just flatly dislike her, for reasons that have nothing whatever to do with her being a woman. (Though the shrill voice and cackling laugh don't help matters, I suppose.)

Get the right woman running for president and she'd have as good a chance as any male candidate.

~Beth

If Naomi Wolf was running for President (and Ron Paul wasn't), I'd vote for her, despite the fact that half her political views would make her likely to run as a Democrat. Unlike "it takes a village" Hitlery, she actually has character and integrity.

Plus she's hot.

But most importantly: she's not a CFR member and Bilderberg pawn.

80,000 volunteers in MeetUp groups all over the cauntry as well as U.S. citizens overseas. More than all the volunteers of the other candidates in both parties added together.

Don't follow the poll numbers the TVs showing. They're fixed. I've seen the evidence and know from personal experience.

Cool!

Glenn Beck is a perplexing fellow. On the one hand, he praises RPs libertarian views, but on the other hand he called RPs supporters "terrorists," and has pretty much smeared him off and on. Who knows?

Either way, it'll be an interesting interview.

"The real truth of the matter is that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson" -- Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1933

"The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, was probably the prime cause of the revolution." -- Benjamin Franklin

"I believe that banking insitutions are more dangerous than standing armies...if the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency...the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." -- Thomas Jefferson

"If you want to remain slaves of the bankers and pay for the costs of your own slavery, let them continue to create money and control the nation's credit" - Sir Josiah Stamp.