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Jaqhama
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   Posted 4/23/2008 12:25 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
darkbow said...
My guess would be some editors only accept snail-mail subs because it keeps down the number of subs they receive. Some magazines receive hundreds or thousands of subs a month.

Then they should say that's the reason they will only accept paper manuscripts.
 
One magazine actually says they won't take electronic subs 'cause it hurts their eyes to read off the computer screen. yeah
 

These people would never last a day at an IT company.


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   Posted 4/23/2008 12:24 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Oooohhh. You made Doug's bad list. Top of the blog today.
He's actually a pretty decent guy, at least he was kind enough to answer my ranting questions on the forum once.
I always figured their reason for sticking to snail mail was pretty much for the same reasons Darkbow said. But I can sympathize with the cost of submitting a story, mail rates are going up again too. shakehead


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   Posted 4/23/2008 12:17 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ah...I just got another reply from ROF in regards to that last email I sent.

They say (and I agree it's their right) to use the internet as they wish.

They also seem to think that I may have 'burned my bridges' in regards to taking other editors to task.
That's actually not the case.
Their no email policy just irritated me is all. They weren't going to read any of my novella via email, and I'm certainly not sending the whole thing by post until they do, so having a shot at their policy made no difference to me.

They claim they get plenty of postal manuscripts from overseas...I'm sure they do...but how many superb stories do they miss out on because they won't accept email subs?

They also claim they have the second largest circulation in the spectulative magazine field. And that maybe the dinosaurs will be around a bit longer. (I like the humour there, very good.)

(Hey...what's the largest circulation of spec fiction?)

It was nice of them to reply at all I guess. And I do understand it's their right to accept/read/reject/do/don't subs and stories any way they wish...it still irritates me though.

I kinda wrote my cutting letter on behalf of all those people who might wish to speak up about the email subs policy...but probably never would...because they fear not being published in the magazine.
It's not something that bothers me.

Rock on!
Cheers: jaq.


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   Posted 4/23/2008 12:05 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
My guess would be some editors only accept snail-mail subs because it keeps down the number of subs they receive. Some magazines receive hundreds or thousands of subs a month.


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Jaqhama
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   Posted 4/23/2008 11:56 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I will not, apparently, ever be published in Realms of Fantasy magazine. lol lol lol
 
Realms of Fantasy only accept postal manuscript submissions...
 
I sent an email asking if they would be prepared to read the first ten pages of the novella via email.
(Seeing as how I'm in Oz and it's obviously easier and cheaper for me to do this.)
I said if they liked the first ten pages I'd be happy to submit the entire manuscript via snail mail later.
 
Got a relpy explaining that they will not accept any email subs at all.
 
I sent back a reply pointing out that once again here's a magzaine that's happy to utilise the internet for their advertising and subscription payments and their newsletters and their ROF Forum...yet refuses to utilise the internet on behalf of writers, particularly those in overseas countires.
I was quite cutting about it.
I called them 'intractable'.
 
On their forum they say they only read paper subs.
Once again it's ok for us writers to slave away in front of a computer screen for hours...but heaven forbid that some magazine editors should be forced to read off a computer screen themselves...even ten pages or less worth.
I mean that's just shocking isn't it? Too awful to contemplate?
 
I then got this reply:
You shouldn't argue with the policies of a magazine's editors, no matter how fussy you think we are.  All it does is make us fussier.  Case in point, should you decide to send your international submissions via snail-mail at some point in the future, be certain to keep us off your list of potential markets.
 
And this is what I sent back.
 
Oh I wasn't arguing...I was merely point out that you guys are quite happy to use the medium of the Internet...as it suits your requirements...but not for any of your potential international writers/submitters.
 
This 'you shouldn't argue with the editor' line is getting old real fast. It makes no impression on me whatsoever.
It's still a free world (kind of) and if I disagree with a magazine or an editor's view then I'll say so.
I'm not a sheep. Threats of not being published don't bother me in the slightest.
 
And your assumption that I might at some future point send you a postal manuscript is misguided.
With so many magazines and webzines and publishing houses now accepting email subs...why would I bother to send a paper manuscript to you guys?
That's just not logical.
(Although if you had been prepared to read at least ten pages of my novella via email and liked it...then I would have happily have sent the whole manuscript via normal post...having then been assured that you were interested enough in the story to have me go to the trouble and expense of posting it. I believe that was a very reasonable request...but as I wrote before...intractable.)
 
Hey...it's your magazine...you reject email subs as you see fit.
 
I think you will find that as time goes by (and it's happening already) fewer and fewer writers in countries overseas will go to the trouble of sending postal manuscripts to the USA.
 
A lot of publishing companies have moved with the times...those that don't...well we all know what happened to the dinosaurs don't we?
 
Thoughts to ponder on for sure.
 
Cheers: Jaqhama.
 
Now I expect some of you here at the SF Forum think I can be a real pain in the ass when I want to.
And you're correct.
But if I see something 'wrong' then I'm prepared to stand up and say so.
So the guy's an editor...so what?
I don't live in fear of not being published. (And the threat not to publish a story I might send later via snail mail...gee, talk about predictable. lol )
 
It's not like I read; or know anyone else in Sydney who subscribes to ROF anyway. :p
 
I'm not having a shot at all editors here by the way...just the one's who keep harping on about how they won't accept email subs...but use the internet and all that it entails to advertise, promote and sell their magazine in the first place.
 
Like some of us here and on other forums have said before...if magazine companies aren't prepared to accept email subs as the years go by...one day they're going to wake up and wonder why they aren't are getting that many.
 
And here's an ironic story for you...my editor at Bikernet is Keith 'Bandit' Ball...he was for many years the editor of the infamous Easyriders magazine...more than ten years ago now Bandit started the online biker lifestyle webzine called Bikernet...many people in the paper magazine publishing industry thought he was crazy...yet today Bikernet is the biggest online Harley/Custom motorcycle webzine on the planet. Bikernet has an admirable list of sponsors and advertisers from all aspects of the motorcycle world and beyond. The webzine gets over a million hits a month and has a list of paid up subscribers in the thousands from all over the world.
Not bad for being 'only' an internet webzine huh?
Bikernet is read by more people, in more countries, than any motorcycle magazine anywhere.
 
Bandit nicely anticipated, and has continued to do so, the rise of the Internet and its ever growing popularity.
All subs to Bikernet are via email...there is no paper at all.
 
I always think it strange that a hardcore biker webzine is so up to date, and that so many other 'genre' publishers...including sci-fi magazines that (one would think) would be at the forefront of internet technology..either aren't...or refuse to become so.
 
It's an odd world.
 
Cheers: Jaq.


You can read some of my stories here:
Skulkers. Jack be nimble, Jack be quick. RAT's. La Carcajou. Jet Bike Boogie...at www.pulpanddagger.com
Swamp Story. Down South. Florida Haze.Wild Justice...
at www.bikernet.com (Plus many of my motorcycle related articles.)
The Covert OP. Chick Prick...at www.milstory.com

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