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Anthony G Williams
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   Posted 7/15/2008 3:44 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well, if we all held the same opinions about books the market would be very dull!
 


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   Posted 7/14/2008 12:44 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Tony,
In the spirit of healthy debate, I'll throw my oar in and disagree. Lois is one of the best in the buisness at taking a gadget other writers throw in as a gimme--say the uterine replicator--and "what if"ing the idea through a dozen of lens from a dosen directions--societal, psychological, political, ethic and moral. While at the same time telling a story that is as riviting as any in the field.
And to me science fiction is not about the cool gadgets, the alien species (Bujold has lots of them, just none so far sentient) but rather its what you do with the ideas they represent. Where you take us with them and what we learn along the way. We've sixty solid years of cool ideas in genre but only a bare handful of really interesting looks at them.
Thats is where her work shines.
And her fantasy is killer as well.

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   Posted 7/13/2008 3:15 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I never said, nor meant to imply, that Bujold's work does not qualify as SF - certainly it does. 
 
Her writing is very strong in certain aspects which are quite generic (i.e. they would make her an excellent writer in any field). However, for my taste her work is weak in the element of invention and imagination, which is what drew me to SF in the first place and distinguish books which are memorable classics from those which are just very good reads.
 


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   Posted 7/13/2008 9:10 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I was interested to read your critique of Bujold's Miles series - and intrigued at your puzzlement over her genre choice. You claim that her stories would work just as well set in a Napleonic backdrop - but that limit Bujold's scope far too severely. Within a Napoleonic backdrop, the culture clash between the more peaceable Betens and the more militaristic Barrayar... the social tensions created by the introduction of the uterine replicator and its impact on the role of women within these societies... the prevailing Barrayan attitudes to physical imperfection... the gradual loosening of values within the Barrayan social structure... these themes would be impossible.

Her world is far more engrossing and believable than many 'harder' SF authors who, despite a hatful of cool gadgets and jaw-dropping alien worlds, cannot depict effectively rounded human characters. Surely, the SF genre is now well enough established that there is also room for all these authors? Who gets to define what is 'real' Science Fiction? The fact that there are no aliens in Bujold's cosmos surely comes far down the list of what makes acceptable SF?


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   Posted 7/13/2008 3:57 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

These are the third and fourth books (in terms of the chronological story line) in the author's Vorkosigan series, and the first to feature the principal character of the series, Miles Vorkosigan (he appeared as a young child at the end of Barrayar, the second book). The first two books were reviewed here on 1 August and 9 September 2007.

 

In 'The Warrior's Apprentice' Miles is now 17 and, as a result of damage inflicted while in the womb, has a stunted and misshapen body with very brittle bones. At the start of the book, these handicaps prevent his acceptance into the Barrayan Imperial Military Service Academy, despite his brilliant mind. So he goes on what was meant to be a peaceful visit to his grandmother on the planet Beta, but which turns into an adventure involving gun running in a war zone and space battles with mercenaries, in which Miles plays a leading role and has to grow up far more quickly than he finds comfortable.

 

'The Vor Game' is set three years later, immediately after Miles has graduated from the Military Academy. He is posted to a remote base on Barrayar where he inevitably gets involved in a controversial incident, leading to his 'secondment' to Imperial Security to get him out of the way. He is despatched into space to locate the mercenary force he took control of in the previous story, with instructions to stop them from becoming involved in a tense diplomatic situation involving several widely-dispersed civilisations. Needless to say, the situation turns out to be more complex than imagined and Miles has to think on his feet and react quickly to a variety of unexpected developments. 

 

My reactions to these stories were much the same as I expressed in my reviews of the two earlier Vorkosigan books (posted here on 1 August and 9 September 2007). Bujold focuses very much on the human angle and has the ability to get inside her character's minds in a totally convincing way. She also writes a fast-paced, exciting and ingenious adventure, with a mix of wit, tragedy and (not always happy) romance. Once I get into her books I find them very hard to put down, and they are always a very enjoyable read.

 

On the debit side, she lacks the "sense of wonder" which has always been a part of the appeal of SF. She does not attempt to introduce any new science-fictional ideas, alien environments, or even any aliens (so far, anyway), which makes a marked contrast with Niven's 'Ringworld', for instance (reviewed on this blog on 10 November 2007). Her plots could easily be transplanted to, say, Napoleonic War naval fiction with only superficial changes. Perhaps a closer comparison than Niven is with Catherine Asaro, whose 'Skolian Empire' series (reviewed here on 19 July 2007) is also very good modern space opera. Bujold has the edge in writing style, but Asaro is more inventive, her world and its inhabitants far more of a departure from our present experience.

 

I remain slightly puzzled as to why Bujold has chosen to focus on science fiction, since her skills would be transferable to any other genre she chose. Looking at it from a writer's perspective, I suppose that SF does have the benefit of providing more freedom to devise scenarios without having to worry about the accuracy of a factual background. Whatever the reason, she is for me an excellent writer who happens to set her stories in an SF context, which is not quite the same thing as an excellent SF writer.

 

(An extract from my SFF blog)

 


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