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   Posted 4/15/2008 9:08 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dungeoneer said...

Anyway, I came to and read your post, Jason. I gotta say, Miko's logo sounds really cool! But, where is it? I've been all over the website (I think) and thru issues 8+9 and don't see it. It must be hiding from me. Please, is there a link to where it's posted so I can have a look-see?


Miko just finished it so it wasn't in 8 and 9. You will see it in 10.

You can also see it here:

Miko's logo

And you can see Mike Jackson's logo here.

go buy a t-shirt with one of each and support my artists just a bit, would you? They do get 50% of the profit from the sale of any item that their art is on.
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von Darkmoor said...
ouch! that had to hurt, Kelly has a mean towel snap.

~~~

'Kay, here's how it is:

Flashing Swords Magazine (FSM from now on) has the Miko's logo of 2 combatants and Kelly as Managing Editor
Flashing Swords Press (FSP) handles all books, has the Jackson crossed swords logo, and Jason as Managing Editor

clear as a foaming mug of ale? well cheer up, cuz we go down smooth!

*shakes head and stands*  What hit me?
Anyway, I came to and read your post, Jason.  I gotta say, Miko's logo sounds really cool!  But, where is it?  I've been all over the website (I think) and thru issues 8+9 and don't see it.  It must be hiding from me.  Please, is there a link to where it's posted so I can have a look-see?
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ouch! that had to hurt, Kelly has a mean towel snap.

~~~

'Kay, here's how it is:

Flashing Swords Magazine (FSM from now on) has the Miko's logo of 2 combatants and Kelly as Managing Editor
Flashing Swords Press (FSP) handles all books, has the Jackson crossed swords logo, and Jason as Managing Editor

clear as a foaming mug of ale? well cheer up, cuz we go down smooth!


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   Posted 4/15/2008 1:55 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
*whap* Tim!


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crystalwizard said...


Yes, well, the problem is Tim, those characters are nameless, have no character sketches and nothing else. Just images at the moment. So they're 'signature' but pretty 2 dimensional. Hard to write a story about any of them without a lot of design yet.
Um, not to be a smart aleck or anything, but I thought that's what this thread was supposed to be about?  Figuring out the details we all wanted the icon character(s) to represent?
So, you want a character sketch?  K, it's gotta start somewhere, so how's this?
The guy with the crossed swords...he's Kromag the Mountain Man.  He's not really a barbarian, he's an intellectual from a civilized kingdom, he went off to study some 'barbarian' society and decided he liked it.  Now he's denounced his home kingdom and is tryingto prove himself worthy of the barbarian tribe, who probably don't really want him.
Uh, he cries at love ballads.  He's got a growing dependency on the addictive jinkarra root.  And is allergic to bee stings.  What else is there about him?  I don't know, but there must be more.  There ya go, add details, change details, with all the authors on these forums we should be able to come up with something good inside a week.
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   Posted 4/15/2008 6:52 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
von Darkmoor said...
You know Dungeoneer, in a way you're more than right to point that logo out. I'm looking at it on my business cards right now and realizing it's on everything FSP-related - the book, the letterhead, the business cards, the t-shirts. Dude's already got a presence, he just needs a name and some stories.

But then I realize that he's the FSP logo. Mikos logo is the FS logo - and there's 2 guys in that one. Not to mention the bard you also point out! Seems we're already set up to do the combo - FSP runs with the barbarian logo as its signature icon, while FS runs with its 3 characters as the nucleus of a group.

We've lots to discuss, obviously, and 4 already existing characters to relook at. Whatcha all think?
Time out.  Ok.  FS is the mag.  FSP is the book line.  FS has it's own logo?  Where is it?  What is it?  I don't recall ever seeing it.  Or at least, not knowing it was the logo when I saw it.
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   Posted 4/15/2008 3:44 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wow, Bryan, is there nothing you can't do? ;) Sometimes I feel like I'm not doing enough, watching you work (and yes, I am working on that site info)


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crystalwizard said...
erazmus said...
start a pod cast,


I'd love to do podcasts in conjunction with the magazine. I'm not sure I'd want to try to do the entire magazine, but if some of the authors would like to record themselves reading their stories and let us host them on the FS website, that would be very cool.

A full-blown podcast would also be cool, but I don't have the equipment for it. Anyone want to volunteer?


I am very seriously considering this. As I work on ideas for an audio ad for Return of the Sword, there may be a completely non-official sampler episode created. There are some quality podcasts that are published once a month, like Parsec award winner Variant Frequencies. So, I am thinking about a monthly series, with one story per episode, maybe a poem, and a bit of promotional jibber-jabber at the end. I am a huge fan of Escape Pod, so I at least have some idea what to shoot for as a listener, plus I have some gear and an endless supply of original music.

The only issue is that it would mean giving up one day per month to make the podcast, probably more. My real creative priority right now is working on my novels (WiP just broke 57k!), so I need to give it some more thought. I will make the ad and a test episode at any rate, just for the heck of it.

It would of course, be much easier if everyone had access to a good recording setup, but the worst thing we could do is to put out a cast with mediocre sound quality.

So there it is, that's what I've been chewing on.


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   Posted 4/15/2008 2:40 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm more than willing to hear Mike's input, love to get a grip on his thoughts - but like you referenced upstream - the FS team is the deciding factor - we own the logo image. It's no different than if we allow some author to create us a character and then try to put a face on him/her - we would own the character, we could make it look anyway we desired. Though I'd accept the author's input in just the same fashion.


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   Posted 4/15/2008 2:26 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
von Darkmoor said...
Alright folks: What do y'all think of the logo barbarian holding the crossed swords over his head?

'Course we can't really begin writing tales about him, but is he worth learning about? giving a name to? finding out why he's holding them swords there like that?

Impromptu, informal poll.


Yes

but

shouldn't you ask the artist if he's already got any ideas about the character?
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   Posted 4/15/2008 2:11 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Alright folks: What do y'all think of the logo barbarian holding the crossed swords over his head?

'Course we can't really begin writing tales about him, but is he worth learning about? giving a name to? finding out why he's holding them swords there like that?

Impromptu, informal poll.


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I'm coming in late, but I wanted to echo support for the idea of an iconic "house" character as opposed to a shared-world feature in each issue. The former seems more easily marketable and more easily doable.

Having been involved in a bit of shared-world stuff, I can vouch that there is a tremendous amount of groundwork involved just in setting up the parameters. With a single-character hook, you just need a good bio and a bit of the world to start. And you get a nifty character to use in ads, T-shirts, etc.

I think it's a very cool idea.


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   Posted 4/14/2008 11:51 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dungeoneer said...
Uh... Oh. I thought you already had a "Signature Character". I mean, how about that barbarian-looking guy with the horned helmet and the 2 swords on the Flashing Swords Press logo on RoTS? He looks nice and iconic. All ya need now is a name and a personality. ...Possible sidekicks/companions. ...Plots. You know, minor stuff. :)


Oh yeah. And what about that minstel guy on the FS homepage, lounging next to the title? Give that guy a name and a personality and SHAZAM! ya got 2 characters already. Maybe he's tagging along to get inspiration for ballads or something.


Yes, well, the problem is Tim, those characters are nameless, have no character sketches and nothing else. Just images at the moment. So they're 'signature' but pretty 2 dimensional. Hard to write a story about any of them without a lot of design yet.
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You know Dungeoneer, in a way you're more than right to point that logo out. I'm looking at it on my business cards right now and realizing it's on everything FSP-related - the book, the letterhead, the business cards, the t-shirts. Dude's already got a presence, he just needs a name and some stories.

But then I realize that he's the FSP logo. Mikos logo is the FS logo - and there's 2 guys in that one. Not to mention the bard you also point out! Seems we're already set up to do the combo - FSP runs with the barbarian logo as its signature icon, while FS runs with its 3 characters as the nucleus of a group.

We've lots to discuss, obviously, and 4 already existing characters to relook at. Whatcha all think?
 
I think you are onto something there Jason... With a bit of brainstorming, something could be hammered to create the icons of the product lines.
 
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   Posted 4/14/2008 10:32 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You know Dungeoneer, in a way you're more than right to point that logo out. I'm looking at it on my business cards right now and realizing it's on everything FSP-related - the book, the letterhead, the business cards, the t-shirts. Dude's already got a presence, he just needs a name and some stories.

But then I realize that he's the FSP logo. Mikos logo is the FS logo - and there's 2 guys in that one. Not to mention the bard you also point out! Seems we're already set up to do the combo - FSP runs with the barbarian logo as its signature icon, while FS runs with its 3 characters as the nucleus of a group.

We've lots to discuss, obviously, and 4 already existing characters to relook at. Whatcha all think?


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   Posted 4/14/2008 9:09 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Uh...  Oh.  I thought you already had a "Signature Character".  I mean, how about that barbarian-looking guy with the horned helmet and the 2 swords on the Flashing Swords Press logo on RoTS?  He looks nice and iconic.  All ya need now is a name and a personality.  ...Possible sidekicks/companions.  ...Plots.  You know, minor stuff.  :)
 
Oh yeah.  And what about that minstel guy on the FS homepage, lounging next to the title?  Give that guy a name and a personality and SHAZAM! ya got 2 characters already.  Maybe he's tagging along to get inspiration for ballads or something.

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   Posted 4/14/2008 5:57 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
erazmus said...
Kelly,
Try getting listed on the SFWA's magazine list here ;
www.sfwa.org/email.asp?email=links&subj=links+section+of+web+site--page+mags.htm

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Request for information on being listed sent. Thanks Mike :)
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Also a link here would be good ;
www.sfsite.com/home.htm

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Kelly,
Try getting listed on the SFWA's magazine list here ;
www.sfwa.org/email.asp?email=links&subj=links+section+of+web+site--page+mags.htm

Mike


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"Dutchman Rescue"in Continuum SF #6
www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm

"An Incident at Black Tongue Tavern" in _Bash Down the Door and Slice Open the Badguy_ from Fantasist Enterprises:

www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php
"Stains" in Tales of the Talisman 3-1 www.zianet.com/hadrosaur/index.html
"Morning Coffee" in Every Day Fiction
www.everydayfiction.com/morning-coffee-by-michael-d-turner/
"The Jewel Below" in Flashing Swords
flashingswords.sfreader.com/issues/issue8/vol2-iss8-05.htm
"Happy Landings" in Every Day Fiction
www.everydayfiction.com/happy-landings-by-michael-d-turner/
"Teller of Tales" in Every day Fiction
www.everydayfiction.com/teller-of-tales-by-michael-d-turner/
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MichaelEhart said...
Noticed that today--- certainly a first step to bigger recogniction.


Yep :) And I'll be sending stories from our issues in to the Years Best Fantasy folks as we go through the year. Trying to get us out there to as many places as possible.

I would GREATLY appreciate contact information for places to send either pdf or print copies of FS to. Not just reviewers but places like Locus Online who will list us. If anyone reading this has that sort of information, please email it to me.
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Noticed that today--- certainly a first step to bigger recogniction. Although, the first time Locus mentioned my name they spelled it wrong. I have said ever since that if I ever get a Locus cover I'll insist on them using the same incorrect spelling :)


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erazmus said...
start a pod cast,


I'd love to do podcasts in conjunction with the magazine. I'm not sure I'd want to try to do the entire magazine, but if some of the authors would like to record themselves reading their stories and let us host them on the FS website, that would be very cool.

A full-blown podcast would also be cool, but I don't have the equipment for it. Anyone want to volunteer?

erazmus said...

put it on a t-shirt.


We've got a ton of stuff on t-shirts now and no one's buying them :(

FS t-shirt with Miko's logo
www.zazzle.com/Flashing_Swords/product/235715989404315504

FS t-shirt with Mike Jackson's logo
www.zazzle.com/Flashing_Swords/product/235063415055494688

t-shirt with a cool St. George and the Dragon illo by Richard Fay:
www.zazzle.com/Flashing_Swords/product/235519673311811821

all sorts of cool t-shirts and other stuff. Come on guys, go buy stuff and support the artists. They get 50% of whatever sells and the magazine gets the other 50%
www.zazzle.com/Flashing_Swords

erazmus said...

We (or CW anyways, its her company) could get an agent to pitch the resulting idea to Hollywood. Not all these things are equally likely, but they are possible.

You're the media editor, Mike. How about you look into what that would entail and let me know what you find out?

erazmus said...

I'll tell you what the hardest thing to do in publishing at this level is-- getting anyone to notice.


which is why the same girl that's doing the promotions for RotS is going to start promotions for each issue of FS.

That's also why we are now listed with all the other SF/Fantasy print mags on the Locus Online site :)
www.locusmag.com/2008/Magazines03.html
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Good to know, I just like to double check how I'm coming across.

I think it could be summed up in a pro con way. Pro (as in if it works on any level) = alright to fabulous results.

Con - the idea does nothing, moves nothing = no real damage.

You have a slot given over to a heroic fantasy story that would have went to another heroic fantasy story -- probably the 'weakest' one since you still have open original story slots.

So an unkown doesn't get a shot and a guy/gal known by FS editors gets a guarenteed sale because of a solicitation. That sucks ( a little, it's only 1 story) for the would be sale the hypothetical slush author would have gotten.

But, from the publications viewpoint it's neither here nor there. Even for nonplussed readers its really neither here nor there, it's still just 1 story.

Just thoughts--I'll bow out a bit so I don't seem like a chimp on a table screaming "my way" (in chimpaneze of course) and let the thought marinate a bit.


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