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|  nathan Sage

       Date Joined Mar 2006 Total Posts : 2111 | Posted 4/11/2008 4:26 PM (GMT -4) |   | | Perhaps because of my own experiences I wonder if the FS crew & staff have given any thought to having a house character whose adventures appear in each episode/adventure of the magazine?
Not a series character owned by the author and thus ensuring that author shows up everytime--but a character controlled by the publishing entity FS that different writers (or mostly one writer but sometimes others, or mostly different but sometimes the same writer, or whatever combination) tackle and potray.
Thus each issue of the mag would have a Kull, or a Phantom in a myraid of adventures for readers to follow along--but it'd be FS's character, not a writer's.
Just curious. I'm watching a Dr. Who marathon while reading ME's Servant of the Manticore and writing pitches for a possible new Executioner contract--so for some reason the idea popped into my head. VIEW IMAGE"Writing the wet dreams of teenage boys" - Lindsey Llyod, Tangent Reviews
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 |  Lyn Adopt

       Date Joined Sep 2007 Total Posts : 1278 | Posted 4/11/2008 4:51 PM (GMT -4) |   | | | |
  |  von Darkmoor Dancer

       Date Joined Dec 2005 Total Posts : 2864 | Posted 4/11/2008 5:15 PM (GMT -4) |   |
nathan said...
Just curious. I'm watching a Dr. Who marathon while reading ME's Servant of the Manticore and writing pitches for a possible new Executioner contract--so for some reason the idea popped into my head. Hilarity ensues around a Nathan post yet again.
Boss Lady CW - I's got plans, I tell ya, PLANS for this here joint. I just gotta get the joint up and running.
Listen to the lady, Nate, and include me in those private emails please.
~~~~~~~~~~ Jason M. Waltz Managing Editor, Flashing Swords Press (site soon to come)
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     |  TRtheJ Neophyte

       Date Joined Apr 2005 Total Posts : 127 | Posted 4/13/2008 2:03 PM (GMT -4) |   | Sounds like an interesting idea. And the idea of polling readers for what they'd like to see sounds interesting, too.
But to drop my two cents into the idea...
Once the polls are answered and a general idea of what is most desired is made, it'd be a wise idea to then entrust it to a chosen writer to put it all together. Kind of like how, by my reading of it, Doc Savage occurred: All the general elements were given to Lester Dent and he went with them, adding his own flair, and success!
Otherwise, I think, too many cooks could ruin the broth, so to speak.
Again, just my two cents... Still unpublished. But hard at work trying...
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     |  TRtheJ Neophyte

       Date Joined Apr 2005 Total Posts : 127 | Posted 4/13/2008 6:17 PM (GMT -4) |   |
James Enge said...I think TRtheJ's concerns are well-taken, but giving the task to one writer seems to undermine the collaborative nature of Nathan's proposal. How about, instead of a shared character, a shared Flashing Swords world (like "Thieves' World")?
I don't see how it undermines the collaborative nature. The collabaration occurs in the character's development: the polls, etc. All the one writer would do is bring it all together. Collaboration could continue, if wished, in everyone reviewing the final product, to offer suggestions concerning likes and dislikes. This would lengthen the process though.
A shared world could work, too. But who will put all the suggestions for it together in the end? Some one will have to do it whether character or world, I think.
Still unpublished. But hard at work trying...
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 |  crystalwizard Forum Moderator

       Date Joined Nov 2006 Total Posts : 4388 | Posted 4/13/2008 6:59 PM (GMT -4) |   | | | |
 |  erazmus Master

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 4461 | Posted 4/14/2008 1:57 PM (GMT -4) |   | I think I'd take a different approach to the suggestion. I wouldn't offer a character, I'd offer a company of them. To wit, a mercinary company of them. With a commander, officers, rank and file members, a magicker's corps, healers . . .kind of like what Misty Lackey had with Kerowyn's company in the Valdemar books, but without such a specific setting. We'd have to put together a bible, and let writers write stories about characters without changing (too much) the supporting characters. This is sort of what happened with theives world, but more focused. T-W was a great success because it allowed a lot of lattitude in story telling while keeping everything tied together. That would seem to me to work better for S&S than trying to let a single character carry the ball. Plus there would be room for almost any kind of character, without having to choose one.
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 |  MichaelEhart Sage

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 2303 | Posted 4/14/2008 2:23 PM (GMT -4) |   | This sounds more likely to work. I have had bad luck with this sort of project, so my input would be more cautionary than constructive. Click here to buy my book!
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 |  erazmus Master

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 4461 | Posted 4/14/2008 2:35 PM (GMT -4) |   | | | |
 |  nathan Sage

       Date Joined Mar 2006 Total Posts : 2111 | Posted 4/14/2008 2:45 PM (GMT -4) |   | Not arguing--just making sure I understand. You think it would, given the frequency with which FS comes out--easier to make a company and setting of characters than it would to make a heroic fantasy version of Doc Savage or the Executioner and have different authors write stories of the character having adventures?
I would think it easier to create an iconic image not overly characterized but perhaps with certain high concept trade marks (special weapon, constant antagonist, etc) than trying to make a redux of T-W (or whatever) given the wordcount and pub frequency.
Again, I'm not saying you're wrong I just think I might be reading 10-degrees left of what you're saying. VIEW IMAGE "Writing the wet dreams of teenage boys" - Lindsey Llyod, Tangent Reviews
Tarantino himself has been forward and unapologetic about his influences. In a 1994 interview with Empire magazine, he said, "I steal from every single movie ever made. If people don't like that, then tough tills, don't go and see it, all right? I steal from everything. Great artists steal, they don't do homages." | | Back to Top | | |
  |  erazmus Master

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 4461 | Posted 4/14/2008 3:27 PM (GMT -4) |   | I don't disagree, Nathan. Easier it would be, a lone character to create. Only four to five times a year, do we publish. (Talk like Yoda, I have only started to.) But would it be better? A feature in F-S it might be, but that isn't the only thing we do. We could post such stories up to the web-page, we could bring out an anthology of tales, we could do more than one thing. We could bring out a comic, start a pod cast, put it on a t-shirt. We (or CW anyways, its her company) could get an agent to pitch the resulting idea to Hollywood. Not all these things are equally likely, but they are possible. So its best to think over and find the best idea, the one with greatest potential. It occures to me we could do both ideas, character and company, not necc. at the same time, but it would be easy to tie them together. This would be a work-for-hire type of thing, obviously. Kelly would be the holder of rights, and I'd imagine she would like something exploitable. Something to draw in readers to Flashing Swords magazine and also F-S's other projects. Readers are key to everything, what will bring them in, and hold on to them? What will get us talked about? I'll tell you what the hardest thing to do in publishing at this level is-- getting anyone to notice. SFReader and its forums are a great place, there are a lot of people here doing great things. But taking the next step, getting beyond the terrific group of fans and creators here and actually selling our stuff to people we don't "know" is tough. And we have to do it, if we are going to survive as more than an expensive Hobby for Kelly. So any idea we decide to run with has to have the best potential to go places. Of course, if we end up going places, it would be nice to take our friends along. A danger is trying to do too many things and ending up doing none well enough to accomplish the main goal-- running a sustainable company. Right now everything has to go toward building what we have-- Flashing Swords, and Return of the Sword and other projects. I like this idea because it can fit in to what we are doing easily while being expandable on its own. Mack Bolan ended up with the Pheonix Force and Stoneyman, right? I'm liking a character and Company together right now.
Mike Michael D. Turner "Psyched Up" in _Turn the other Chick_-ed. E. Friesner-Baen books www.baen.com "Dutchman Rescue"in Continuum SF #6 www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm
"An Incident at Black Tongue Tavern" in _Bash Down the Door and Slice Open the Badguy_ from Fantasist Enterprises:
www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php "Stains" in Tales of the Talisman 3-1 www.zianet.com/hadrosaur/index.html "Morning Coffee" in Every Day Fiction www.everydayfiction.com/morning-coffee-by-michael-d-turner/ "The Jewel Below" in Flashing Swords flashingswords.sfreader.com/issues/issue8/vol2-iss8-05.htm "Happy Landings" in Every Day Fiction www.everydayfiction.com/happy-landings-by-michael-d-turner/ "Teller of Tales" in Every day Fiction www.everydayfiction.com/teller-of-tales-by-michael-d-turner/ Read "Silver Shells" In Every Day Fiction www.everydayfiction.com/silver-shells-by-michael-d-turner/ | | Back to Top | | |
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