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Rob Santa
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| Posted 5/4/2007 4:27 PM (GMT -4) |   | Going to once again post the updated table of contents here so nobody has to backtrack. Again, it is in order of acceptance.
"Li T'ien and the Dragon Nian" by Eugie Foster - 1,800 words
"Hardcastle's Dragon" by Martin Owton - 1,600 words
"Azieran: The Travelers Four" by Christopher Heath - 2,700 words
"A Pet of Her Own" by M. L. Burch - 7,000 words
"I Dreamed of Griffons in Flight" by Jeff Crook - 2,500 words
"The Bala Worm" by James S. Dorr - 7,000 words
"Otrossius and the Drake Who Bothered No One" by Steve Goble - 5,600 words
"Let Me Explain" by Gerald Costlow - 1,000 words
"Dragon's Hide" by Armand Rosamilia - 3,600 words
"An Ordinary Dragon" by Jennifer Schwabach - 4,000 words
"Herbert and the Wyrm" by Marty O'Hale - 2,400 words
"Lesson Learned" by Tom Williams - 3,700 words
"Western Front, 1914" by Peter Friend - 1,600 words
"Shandango Dance" by Sara Michael - 600 words
"The Elephant and the Dragon" by Sean Melican - 3,500 words
"Keeping Company" by Adrian Simmons - 2,500 words
"The Dragonkeeper's Wife" by Peter Ball - 2,500 words
"Rip-Snorter" by Tom Williams - 1,200 words
"Sea and Sky" by Katherine Shaw - 4,400 words
Current Table of Contents: 19 stories, 60,000 words
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Bill Ward
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| Posted 5/6/2007 2:44 PM (GMT -4) | | OK, while I certainly agreee with you guys that Rob should not be pestered and is something of a vicitm of his own success in this regard, I think the point had been made and we should stop jumping on the people who are querying a bit too soon. Many of them are new to the process and have no real idea what goes on on the other side of the slush, and they are just doing what comes naturally -- their newness and insecurity being a big part of the anxiety that has them querying within a week -- and I'm certain none of them wants to imply that they take Rob's work for granted. Cut them some slack, and let Rob decide how he wants to deal with it. Any that may be reading this thread certainly get the point by now.
Obviously we all know the lengths Rob has gone, and wouldn't dream of sending him a query--but the quick query is a newbie mistake like so many others that Rob and I and a lot of other editors understand its better to simply overlook than make a fuss over. Its just part of the learning curve; you just field the query, shake your head, and move on. | | Back to Top | | |
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TW
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| Posted 5/6/2007 3:00 PM (GMT -4) | | WDW:
I agree with your voice of reason -- well expressed.
By the same token, it's better to be teased or lightly chided here than flamed out there in the bigger, more brutal world (and never understand why it happened and decide that life's unfair and give up).
It's not that some are *deliberately* taking Rob's (or yours or anybody's) Herculean efforts for granted -- but being taken for granted is the same whether it's deliberate or just ignorant. It's sort of like being angered when someone zooms by you on the highway... are they jerks, or did their baby just get taken to the ER? We don't know, so we can't judge.
(And, ignorance, too, is an area where I think I have the market cornered.)
Nothing wrong with being eager -- I'm a newbie, too, after all.
regards,
TW
Recent credits: "The Teeth of the Matter" and "Cold Dragons" in Dragons, Knights and Angels; "The One-Legged Assassin" and "Possession is Nine Parts" in Electric Spec; "At Winter's Edge", upcoming in Forgotten Worlds; "Lesson Learned" and "Rip-Snorter" and "Iron Hearts of Death", upcoming in Ricasso Press' anthologies "Black Dragon, White Dragon" and "Magic and Mechanica", respectively. | | Back to Top | | |
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Bill Ward
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| Posted 5/6/2007 3:49 PM (GMT -4) | | | I understand completely, and I'm sure Rob also appreciates that you guys definitely all 'get it' and don't shy from expressing your support for the great job he's doing. | | Back to Top | | |
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Rob Santa
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| Posted 5/8/2007 10:16 AM (GMT -4) | | Just thought I'd let everyone know I have not just several new submissions sitting in the Inbox but also four rewrites I requested. There is a very real possibility the table of contents could fill up quickly, so I felt like I should expand on my thoughts about the guidelines.
I've mentioned several times I plan on stopping the call for submissions at 75,000 words. The guidelines state, though, the anthology is planned for 85,000 to 100,000 words. This is to account for rewrites and acceptances in the Inbox after I've closed the reading period. Should the ToC need a bit of a boost, I will announce a reopening of the reading period for a few weeks.
In short, to all prospective submitters still working on their stories, polish up what you have and send it to me at your convenience. I will continue to read stories after I make the stop-call until I make one along the lines of "Pretty please, stop sending me manuscripts. I'm beggin' ya!" 
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von Darkmoor
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| Posted 5/11/2007 12:41 AM (GMT -4) | | | | |
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Rob Santa
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| Posted 5/16/2007 8:22 AM (GMT -4) | | Hello from sunny Florida.
As my wife and daughters are fond of saying: Girls Rule!
Three acceptances to add to the table of contents...
"The Black Butcher" by Anna Lowther focuses on Leadbelly, a pirate on the crew of the Ebon Rose, captained by the titular bad guy. Pirates! Witchcraft! A sea dragon! Part mysticism and part high seas adventure...what's not to like?
"God's Wrath" by Heidi Kneale came to me by way of Howard Jones. We all know he's got a good eye, and after requesting a rewrite to shorten the piece, Heidi nailed this story about a group of young men and women who sacrifice their lives for the glory of God in order to keep their families and the town safe from a dragon. That it is because they clean up its chemical wastes is a unique spin on the dragonfighting concept.
"San Marino and the Dragon" is Kelly Harmon's Italian-style tale of a town that no longer believes in the dragon at the heart of their annual festival. What happens when they no longer perform the right rituals, especially if the dragon has a contract? Kelly submitted a previous story that was not themed appropriately for the anthology, and I let her know the style and voice of Italian, pre-Brothers Grimm fairy tale was a particular favorite of mine. A few short weeks later I get an original piece that still fits the bill.
At 6,000, 4,100 and 5,900 words respectively, it looks like the table of contents is full with 22 stories and 76,000 words. I still have submissions in the Inbox as well as a few rewrite requests out there with authors. Feel free to continue to send manuscripts my way, and I will let everyone know when to stop (most likely by throwing my hands in the air and begging for it). As I am on vacation right now I will not be reading manuscripts until I return home, after this Sunday the 20th.
Thank you all, and great job Anna, Kelly and Heidi.
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anna
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| Posted 5/16/2007 9:19 AM (GMT -4) | | Thank YOU Rob !
Hope you're well away from the smoke down there. Enjoy your vacation. I used to live in Florida, and I love to visit whenever I can. | | Back to Top | | |
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Rob Santa
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| Posted 5/23/2007 4:01 PM (GMT -4) | | It's official...the reading period for "Black Dragon, White Dragon" is over.
I'm still sitting on a 78,000-word collection, with a few outstanding rewrite requests. I've also been contacted by several colleagues who would like to put something together knowing the deadline has come and gone. For those of you who have PM-ed me, let it be known that this book isn't going to the printers for a few months still, so you have my permission to finish up those stories and send them my way. For those of you who haven't PM-ed me about sneaking in after the deadline, you are welcome to do so.
I will read the rest of the stories I receive today (and maybe tomorrow - hey, I'm a nice guy). After that, future submissions will be met with a "sorry, the ToC is full" type of message.
Public thanks to everyone who submitted. As my first official stint at reading an open call for stories, I've had the pleasure of seeing some remarkably good writing. Without a doubt this has been a learning experience. I'm glad I set up my game plan the way I did, for it allows me the time to give personal and professional attention to submissions without sacrificing too much of my own writing time. It's nice to know that future reading periods should go just as smoothly.
Don't forget: the Magic & Mechanica anthology is barely half full. Plenty of time to get submissions in for that collection.
Guidelines are here: http://forum.sfreader.com/default~f~52~m~32689.html
Updates are here: http://forum.sfreader.com/default~f~52~m~32690.html
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