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Jordan Lapp
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| Posted 5/6/2008 1:28 PM (GMT -4) |   |
Rob Mancebo said...
- In the 1980s Scientists claimed that acupuncture didn't work. It is in science's nature to question and deny anything not proven through the scientific method. In the East, the 'scientific method' was not traditionally used. Turns out that acupuncture DOES work... BUT it doesn't matter where you poke someone with a sharp object. It's the poking that counts.
From Skepdic.com:
For example, a randomized, blinded study involving over 1,100 subjects with chronic back pain were given different treatments and evaluated after six months using both the Von Korff and the Hanover instruments. The study compared treatment by (1) acupuncture using traditional acupuncture points and methods, (2) acupuncture that used non-traditional points and methods (the needles weren't inserted as deeply or twirled as in traditional acupuncture, and (3) treatment involving drugs, exercise, and physical therapy. About twice as many in the groups stuck with needles responded to the treatment as in the non-needle group. It did not matter whether they were stuck in traditional points using traditional methods or in non-standard points using non-traditional methods. About 45% responded in these groups compared to about 25% in the group treated with drugs, exercise, and physical therapy. According to the BBC:
The researchers, from the Ruhr University Bochum, say their findings suggest that the body may react positively to any thin needle prick - or that acupuncture may simply trigger a placebo effect.*
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Rob Mancebo
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| Posted 5/6/2008 12:03 PM (GMT -4) | |
Jaqhama said...
On the subject of power/magic/technology...
A lot of scientists say that Ki/Chi/Psi/psychic power doesn't exist...but I'm afraid that's not correct.
- In the 1980s Scientists claimed that acupuncture didn't work. It is in science's nature to question and deny anything not proven through the scientific method. In the East, the 'scientific method' was not traditionally used.
- So, if something's worked for folks for 2,000 years, do we just continue to take it on faith or test it? Different answers on that from different schools of thought.
- Dr Glenn Morris did a lot of testing of 'Weird Science'. Some of that research is well described in 'Path Notes of an American Ninja Master' . That's a great read for those who wish to explore beyond science. (Warning- having read and practiced techniques from that book will get you strange looks even from the teachers in the Bujinkan ninja schools.) His later books: Shadow Stratagies, and Martial Arts Madness are out of print and $80+ last time I heard.
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Jaqhama
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Date Joined Oct 2007
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| Posted 5/6/2008 11:44 AM (GMT -4) | | | On the subject of power/magic/technology...
A lot of scientists say that Ki/Chi/Psi/psychic power doesn't exist...but I'm afraid that's not correct.
As a classic example I give you Tak Kubota, world famous exponent of Karate who is well known for breaking car leaf springs (old fashioned suspension struts) with his bare hands.
This is not forgetting the thousands of Karateka's who can breack concrete blocks/bricks/ice/and other solid objects with their hands.
Most of them don't even scratch their or break their skin when doing so.
And flesh is a lot softer than any of the above.
Any thoughts on how this is possible if the above energy sources don't come into play?
I used to do a lot of breaking. Though never a leaf spring. That may be forever beyond me. Though I live in hope.
I can't break one because I can't my head around the idea of being able to do so.
I also can't my head around the idea that I'll break my hand if I try.
That fear is what stops me being able to do it in the first place.
You can read some of my stories here: Swamp Story. Down South. Florida Haze.Wild Justice...
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