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|  cussedness Adept

       Date Joined Apr 2005 Total Posts : 786 | Posted 5/28/2007 7:26 PM (GMT -4) |   | I have a new editor. however, she had one compliant that I was not certain about. So I thought I'd ask you guys out there.
My new editor says that the young males in my most recent novel think about sex too much. I was always under the impression that young guys, in this case between the ages of 16 and 21, spent a lot of time thinking about sex and chasing girls. I'm not presenting them in a negative light when I do it, but still...
Is that true or am I stereotyping them? Janrae Frank I have no skeletons in my closet, they are all hanging from the yardarm.
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   |  darkbow Rabbit lord

       Date Joined Oct 2005 Total Posts : 1470 | Posted 5/29/2007 1:12 AM (GMT -4) |   | | | |
 |  cussedness Adept

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  |  darkbow Rabbit lord

       Date Joined Oct 2005 Total Posts : 1470 | Posted 5/29/2007 11:33 AM (GMT -4) |   | Eh, didn't mean it to sound that way! 
But, rethinking this topic a little, I also think it's somewhat a matter of culture and availability. Yes, men (especially young men) think a lot about sex in any society, but I'm thinking the amount of time they spend thinking about sex and how they think about it is going to be affected by what they see and hear and experience around them. A relatively sterile environment, such as the common public perception of Victorian England, is not likely to be as titillating as say the modern U.S., or more so, Amsterdam. Further, I think it's also somewhat a matter of what is or is not acceptable within a culture; the U.S. tends to be pretty uptight about sex in some circles because of a strong Puritan background, but that's not the case in other cultures, or in some historical cultures.
And I don't mean to make any kind of judgment whatsover about any culture, just saying things as I see them as a permanent student of history. www.tyjohnston.blogspot.com http://swordofbayne.blogspot.com/ www.thereddoorconcierge.blogspot.com www.thereddoorconcierge.com | | Back to Top | | |
    |  MichaelEhart Sage

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 2303 | Posted 5/29/2007 3:36 PM (GMT -4) |   | I'll be 52 in a few months. I am looking forward to thinking less about sex. Any day now. Really. "The Scarlet Colored Beast" The Sword Review, September 2007
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   |  Anthony G Williams Greybeard

       Date Joined Apr 2007 Total Posts : 381 | Posted 5/30/2007 5:08 AM (GMT -4) |   |
darkbow said...
But, rethinking this topic a little, I also think it's somewhat a matter of culture and availability. Yes, men (especially young men) think a lot about sex in any society, but I'm thinking the amount of time they spend thinking about sex and how they think about it is going to be affected by what they see and hear and experience around them. A relatively sterile environment, such as the common public perception of Victorian England, is not likely to be as titillating as say the modern U.S., or more so, Amsterdam. Further, I think it's also somewhat a matter of what is or is not acceptable within a culture; the U.S. tends to be pretty uptight about sex in some circles because of a strong Puritan background, but that's not the case in other cultures, or in some historical cultures.
I'm not so sure about that. I recently read an article about social attitudes among young people in Iran, which is officially very repressive towards overt sexuality, and they were, to coin a phrase, gagging for it - anonymous blogs by girls are apparently very raunchy. Cultures which take a more open and casual attitude towards nudity and sex seem much more relaxed about the whole business; repression seems to make it worse.
You can't blame the youngsters - it's their hormones which are in control.
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   |  erazmus Master

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 4461 | Posted 5/30/2007 2:03 PM (GMT -4) |   | Think abou sex? 16-20? Constantly-- but it was more like a background humm. Talk about sex? Not so much. We just let it humm along unspoken most of the time. I mean, where I was at at the time, there were plenty of things to discuss and only so much time, and how much discussion can you dedicate to what you don't have, aren't likely to get soon and don't know many in any other condition? (That was 16-17)
Somehow, despite the background humm, most of my friends and I managed to _talk_ a lot more about school (and yes, schoolwork), theatre, D&D, movies, music, books we read, comicbooks we followed (and the attendant writers/artists et al), our jobs, our parents (universally clueless, of course) where we wanted to go to college, what ever was in the news and finally, occasionally, sex.
Once we managed to obtain sex, we spent much, much more time talking _to_ girls, managed to still talk about most of the above and, if possible, actually talked about sex less. But we did manage to add in a lot of discussion about girls and how unreasonable they were. (That was 17-18).
I married at eighteen (the first time) and once I did sex was not on the table for talking, it was my personable buisness thank you very much. I was nearly obsessed with the girl I'd married and didn't see many people outside of work (military). Others might have been buzzing all the time abut it, but I didn't notice-- I was too busy with everything else mentioned above.
When we could be bothered to get out of bed, that is.
I think the overt theme of sex is overplayed all to often. Yes, young men are hormone driven animals. But they aren't mindless hormone driven animals. They may thnk of sex constantly but its an odd timeshare with everything else. Think about sex-.2 seconds-think about what you are doing.6 sec- think about other subject.2 sec-think about sex some more .2 sec . . .like that. Most of us seemed to master this in short order-- or else we'd never gotten out of high school!
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 |  Mike Lynch Acolyte

       Date Joined Mar 2007 Total Posts : 297 | Posted 5/30/2007 3:05 PM (GMT -4) |   | I think the "Response" vs. "View" for this topic says it all. As of this post, it is 16 responses, and 157 views. People are obviously intrigued by the title and know what's going on, myself included. They are just a bit shy about sharing their feelings.
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   |  darkbow Rabbit lord

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