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crystalwizard
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Posted 5/13/2008 12:07 PM (GMT -4)

Lots of pretty icons, but no tool tips so I have no idea what most of the icons are for. Dave, can you impliment text under those icons so that it's easy to see what they do? For example, on the main forum page there's a line of icons under the 3d light blue bar. What are they? At the moment, the only way to tell is to click on each of them. I'm using Firefox. Perhaps that's different in IE but a lot of our users and visitors use Firefox and aren't going to want to switch to IE.

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crystalwizard
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Posted 5/13/2008 12:11 PM (GMT -4)

I also can't find anywhere in my profile to upload an avatar, pick an avatar from stock or set a signature line. Where are those things hidden?

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Posted 5/13/2008 12:18 PM (GMT -4)

It's one of those icons... I jsut started punching them randomly

UPDATE: A text message comes up now...the button to set your avatar and update profile is "My Settings"

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Dave
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Posted 5/13/2008 1:17 PM (GMT -4)

Firefox obey W3C ad doesn't not display alt tags when the image is available. The correct markup for an image tip display is to use the 'title=' tag.

IE incorrectly expands the alt text when an image is mouseovered. This forum has that same problem; non of the image show tips for Firefox, only for IE because the developers used the alt=, not the title=

There is a download you can get that will expand the alts for images....

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=1115673

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Posted 5/13/2008 1:50 PM (GMT -4)

'add comment' feature at the wiki isn't working, fyi

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Dave
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Posted 5/13/2008 2:13 PM (GMT -4)

Wel,l this was a stupid way to do it, but you hit the plus sign to expand comments. You see the 'add comment' link. The page refreshes, and the comments block is closed again. Click the plus sigh AGAIN and now you will see the comment form.

http://www.dotnetnuke.com/Community/Forums/tabid/795/forumid/70/threadid/206029/scope/posts/Default.aspx

They are working on this for the next release

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Posted 5/13/2008 3:32 PM (GMT -4)

Thanks. I guess I just stopped punching buttons too early this time! lol Everything else looks pretty nifty so far.

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crystalwizard
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Posted 5/13/2008 5:54 PM (GMT -4)

Dave said...
Firefox obey W3C ad doesn't not display alt tags when the image is available. The correct markup for an image tip display is to use the 'title=' tag.

IE incorrectly expands the alt text when an image is mouseovered. This forum has that same problem; non of the image show tips for Firefox, only for IE because the developers used the alt=, not the title=

There is a download you can get that will expand the alts for images....

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=1115673

How about just adding text under the icons?

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Dave
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Posted 5/13/2008 9:06 PM (GMT -4)

No can do - DNN is a compiled COTS product. Tons of modules, but no customization, unless I download the source and write some code, and I went to COTS to get away from that.

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crystalwizard
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Posted 5/14/2008 6:42 PM (GMT -4)

Dave, what about author pages? Will the online html editor be better than what exists right now?

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Dave
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Posted 5/14/2008 8:19 PM (GMT -4)

I hadn't decided on author pages or not - I was thinking the blog and Wiki would be good enough.

What's the community think? I could add individual author pages fairly easily

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crystalwizard
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Posted 5/15/2008 12:30 AM (GMT -4)

Dave said...
I hadn't decided on author pages or not - I was thinking the blog and Wiki would be good enough.

What's the community think? I could add individual author pages fairly easily

I like the author pages too, though. The blog is nice, but it'll scroll and as new things are added, old information will get buried. The Wiki's nice, but not focused on one specific author. Author pages are like mini-websites each customizable by individual authors and I think are a very unique, important feature of the site. Just wish they had a good editor that didn't insist on taking all the carriage returns out of the code.

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Posted 5/15/2008 11:10 AM (GMT -4)

Still not sure how to add a Wiki page - I see you have a few to start with, but how does one go about starting a topic. My attempt/experiment at transferring the info about terraforming Mars from the ask the expert thread here was deleted. My intent was to throw a bunch of info up and let people start editing like at wikipedia...So am I not understanding the concept?

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crystalwizard
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Posted 5/15/2008 11:16 AM (GMT -4)

I'm not sure how to add a Wiki page either, and I'd like to know who's going to be in charge of approving or deleting the pages. Someone's going to have to do that or we're going to get a random bunch of stuff, most of which might pertain to this site but some of which is guaranteed to be either off topic or pure spam.

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Posted 5/15/2008 11:57 AM (GMT -4)

Well, if we have an active community, the wiki becomes self-patrolled. But it will be a bit rocky at first, I'm sure.

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Dave
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Posted 5/15/2008 1:55 PM (GMT -4)

The Wiki will only work f the community takes ownership and self polices. Only registered members can add to the Wiki. If the Wiki starts getting out of control because no one int he community is helping, I'll have to delete it. Right now, I can police myself, but if it grows, I might not be able to.

The Wiki works like any wiki - new pages are automatically created by formatting within a current page:

* To add a page simply enter its name in text with double brackets surrounding it while writing out your content; your only limitation is it may not be longer than 50 characters. This is also how you make a link to an existing page.
Example: [[My Link]]
Example: [[Another Link In Wiki]]

* Once you have added a page you can edit your new page by navigating to it and clicking "Edit".

* There is no limit to the number of new pages you can add while creating new content.

* New pages will not show up in the Index view nor will they be searchable until they have content created for them.

* You can add a title to your link by adding a Pipe after the name. When you do this the title will show as a hyperlink instead of the page name.
Example: [[My Link|A Title]]
Example: [[Another Link In Wiki|I can say what ever I want]]

* To link to Wiki Page on another Tab you can add a Second Pipe after the Page title with the Number to the other Tab
Example using just the page name: [[My Page||35]]
Example with page title: [[My Page|My Title here|35]]

* To link back to the home page make your backet link to WikiHomePage
Example: [[WikiHomePage]]
Example: [[WikiHomePage|Home]]

* Because we use the HTML WYSIWYG editor, email links and URLs can be added by typing them in and letting the editor handle them; or as normal <a href> tags in the HTML view of the editor

So as an example, someone could edit the Home Page Wiki entry and make 'speculative fiction' in the first sentence a new page by editing it to [[speculative fiction]]. Then save with that edit and the speculative fiction page will be created. Click on the now active link in the original post, and now you're on teh speculative fiction page and you could write a blurb on what it is. In that blurb, you might, for example, list a couple of the top speculative fiction magazines or book publishers, making those pages too.

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Posted 5/18/2008 10:33 AM (GMT -4)

i kept forgetting to set up my author page here at sfreader, but i have no difficulties with a blog.

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Posted 5/18/2008 11:15 AM (GMT -4)

i got me a blog. And it's mighty purty.

crystalwizard
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Posted 5/18/2008 2:58 PM (GMT -4)

Dave said...

The Wiki works like any wiki - new pages are automatically created by formatting within a current page:

Dave, I've never known how to do that and there are probably a lot of other people that don't know how. You posted an excellent, easy to understand set of instructions. Would you mind very much putting them into a file and linking it to the site some how so people can find them again easily?

crystalwizard
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Posted 5/18/2008 3:53 PM (GMT -4)

Dave, I've got a question about the new SFReader chat. Is there a way to see who's in the chat room? I love the large window but most chat programs have a 'room list' or a 'who's in the room' list beside the chat interface and I can't find anything like that on the new one.

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Dave
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Posted 5/19/2008 2:12 PM (GMT -4)

"Dave, I've never known how to do that and there are probably a lot of other people that don't know how. You posted an excellent, easy to understand set of instructions. Would you mind very much putting them into a file and linking it to the site some how so people can find them again easily?"
It's already on the site. When you are on the Wiki and go to edit a page, you will see a Wiki text Directions next to a plus sign. Click the plus sign to expand out the instructions.

I haven't used the chat, or at least been there when anyone else was. Do you mean see who's in the chat when you go to the chat, or just somewhere on teh site at all times?

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crystalwizard
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Posted 5/19/2008 4:35 PM (GMT -4)

see who's in chat with you when you're there. Both when you enter and while you're in it. Normally there's a menu list on the side next to the chat window that lists everyone in the chat. Otherwise, you have no idea who is or if anyone other than you is until someone else says something.

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