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tchernabyelo
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  		   Posted 11/21/2007 2:47 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I keep an eye on Duotrope's "What's New" feature as a way of finding out about new markets and noticed this one pop up the other day. http://www.serpentari.us/
 
First issue out January 2008.    
 
"Welcome to Serpentarius Magazine.   We are a Speculative Fiction market. Speculative means genres like Science Fiction, Fantasy, Horror, Fear, Steampunk, Alternate Worlds, Sword and Sorcery, and any other similar trope. Or tripe, as the case may be."

Stories up to 5k.   Pro rates for stories over flash length.   I've already subbed...

Editor is N E Dix, a name I haven't come across before.  

Brian Dolton
 
Yi Qin stories:
"The Box Of Beautiful Things" - IGMS#3
"The Man Who Was Never Afraid" - Abyss and Apex #20
"Where No Wind Blows" - Staffs & Starships #2 (forthcoming)
"What The Sea Refuses" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"At Blue Crane Falls" - Abyss and Apex (forthcoming)
 
Other Land Of Wind And Ghosts stories:
"The Dragon Path" - Fictitious Force (forthcoming)
"Three Out Of Four" - Sorcerous Signals (forthcoming)
 
Stories in other settings:
"The Unicorn Hunter" - OG's Speculative Fiction #8
"When Winter Came" - ASIM#32 (forthcoming)
"Cold Fire" - Flashing Swords (forthcoming)

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  		   Posted 11/21/2007 6:34 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks for the tip!

Jordan Lapp
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  		   Posted 11/22/2007 4:17 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Good to know. Thanks for spreading the word.

:-)

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Hannah Steenbock

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  		   Posted 11/22/2007 4:55 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
AH, fresh meat!

"Art is the celebration of the ego's destruction."

Daniel

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  		   Posted 11/25/2007 12:25 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I queried them about something a few days ago. No answer yet ...

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Hannah Steenbock

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  		   Posted 11/29/2007 6:29 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I made a submission. I'll report back when I hear from them

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  		   Posted 11/29/2007 6:48 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I always balk at the permanent net archive thing, diffuses my interest in a lot of ezines.

But I like the broad interest in stories they have in their guidelines, looks like a market to watch.

billwardwriter.com

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  		   Posted 11/29/2007 7:10 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Most zines (like EDF) will take down your story after a set period of time if you ask, but I don't know why it's a big deal. If you're printed in a book, it's available for all time, isn't it?

Jordan Lapp
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  		   Posted 11/30/2007 1:13 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Just finished sending in a story - will let everyone know how it goes!
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  		   Posted 11/30/2007 9:12 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jordan Lapp said...
Most zines (like EDF) will take down your story after a set period of time if you ask, but I don't know why it's a big deal. If you're printed in a book, it's available for all time, isn't it?


Not for free with a google search.

I have no-problem with ezines that specify the minimum length of their archiving and let you take it down at any time after that, but I do see many that want archival rights in perpetuity.

billwardwriter.com

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  		   Posted 12/1/2007 12:27 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I kind of like the idea of it being up forever, as long as I have the rights to publish it again if I like to. That way there is another reference to my name somewhere on the internet.

read free fiction and poetry at http://www.geocities.com/davidolson22/index.html
 
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Bill Ward
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  		   Posted 12/1/2007 8:23 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well, my thinking is that no one knows what will happen to a magazine down the road. Say it comes under new management, and is ruined. With a traditional magazine your story is somewhere back in the past, in a discreet package, shouldered up alongside all the other stories of that era, maybe even out of print. With an online magazine its always 'current,' even if its back aways in the archive its only a click away from all the stuff on the front page...and if that stuff all goes inexplicably bad, your story is suddenly in bed with it.

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  		   Posted 12/1/2007 1:25 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well, they never answered my query. I suppose I'll send that story elsewhere then.

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Hannah Steenbock

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Jordan Lapp
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  		   Posted 12/1/2007 5:35 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
That is why you ask to have your story taken down, Bill. Nearly every magazine will do that for you.

Jordan Lapp
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Bill Ward
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  		   Posted 12/1/2007 6:24 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If that was the case, why not say that in their rights purchased? What they say: "Non-exclusive Electronic Rights. After the initial issue, your story will be available as a part of the Serpentarius website back catalog." Not a word about taking it down when asked.

They aren't by any means the most stringent, I have seen many e-zines that actually specify permanent/indefinite archiving. Which is the only reason I brought it up.

billwardwriter.com

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  		   Posted 12/5/2007 4:21 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well I submitted to Serpentarius a bit back, we'll see how it goes, I have _no_ sense of what they want at all, so I sent the best I had.
The perpetual archive thing is a bit much. It is damn hard to sell a reprint to another market if it is up and available, for free, all ready. Of course, the big benefit of reprints is keepig your name out where people can see it, and the archive kind of acomplishes that. But not as good as a new ToC does.

Mike

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"Dutchman Rescue"in Continuum SF #6
www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm

"An Incident at Black Tongue Tavern" in _Bash Down the Door and Slice Open the Badguy_ from Fantasist Enterprises:

www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php
"Stains" in Tales of the Talisman 3-1 www.zianet.com/hadrosaur/index.html
"Slushpiles" in Between the Kisses
www.samsdotpublishing.com/betweenkisses/TurnerSlushPileS.htm

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  		   Posted 12/5/2007 4:35 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
While reprints are nice, what's wrong with just writing new material? Doesn't that say more about your abilities anyway?

I kind of like this perpetual archive thing myself. I can post links on my "list of publications" on my web site, and visitors to my site can go and read the poems on the various web sites.
 
I actually did send a poem to Serpentarius.  It was actually a poem with a serpentine theme (purely by chance, mind you), so it was an interesting thing to submit to them .  We'll see how it goes.

"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" Andrew of Armar.
 
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  		   Posted 12/5/2007 4:40 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah, submitting reprints in the day of online archives is an interesting issue. My thought in favor is that a second or third go-round with a different zine exposes your work to a wider audience. The drawback is that your readers might travel in the same circles as you do and see your work a second time someplace else...which isn't bad, but if you have a site that your fans visit, then they already know your piece. Thus the need for new material.

Any other thoughts on reprints in this current era of seemingly perpetual online archives?

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  		   Posted 12/5/2007 4:52 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
In terms of poetry, I can certainly create new poems to send to other venues to garner interest in my work. Many places allow you to post or print your web site address, which can lead readers to my other works already on-line.

Of course, getting reprints in various venues gets you more readers, but so does getting new material published in various venues.

Now, I may eventually want to do a chapbook or collection of my poetry. In that case I worry a bit about the consequences of perpetual on-line archives. I haven't looked into the idea enough to say how much one would effect the other.

Most of my pieces can't even be sent out as reprints yet anyway.

"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" Andrew of Armar.
 
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  		   Posted 12/5/2007 4:52 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Goodness, I never said, or implied in anyway, that I submit reprints in lieu of new material! Stories go out as they are finished, and stay out until they are sold. And as the rights revert, they go out again. Everything I write is either in submission, awaiting publication, available somewhere, or waiting for the rights to revert.
A reprint doesn't take any work, other than e-mailing a file and waiting a response. Its done, edited, polished, ready for print. They don't cut into my writing time, they just take up space on my submissions spreadsheet.

Mike

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"Psyched Up" in _Turn the other Chick_-ed. E. Friesner-Baen books
www.baen.com
"Dutchman Rescue"in Continuum SF #6
www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm

"An Incident at Black Tongue Tavern" in _Bash Down the Door and Slice Open the Badguy_ from Fantasist Enterprises:

www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php
"Stains" in Tales of the Talisman 3-1 www.zianet.com/hadrosaur/index.html
"Slushpiles" in Between the Kisses
www.samsdotpublishing.com/betweenkisses/TurnerSlushPileS.htm

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  		   Posted 12/5/2007 6:09 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You guys must have sent too much work and overwhelmed the poor guy. Apparently, they're closing to new subs on December 10th.

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  		   Posted 12/5/2007 7:18 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
erazmus said...
Goodness, I never said, or implied in anyway, that I submit reprints in lieu of new material! Stories go out as they are finished, and stay out until they are sold. And as the rights revert, they go out again. Everything I write is either in submission, awaiting publication, available somewhere, or waiting for the rights to revert.
A reprint doesn't take any work, other than e-mailing a file and waiting a response. Its done, edited, polished, ready for print. They don't cut into my writing time, they just take up space on my submissions spreadsheet.

Mike

Oh, I wasn't really implying that you sent reprints in lieu of new material, just that I personally think new material is more important than reprints.
 
I'm not even to the point that I can send out reprints anyway, so maybe I'm not giving the consideration of reprints much thought at all.  Maybe I should.  Of course, some places don't take reprints. so that's another point to consider.
 
I work in a similar way, though - everything I've done is pretty much awaiting a response, awaiting publication, or published somewhere.  If it gets rejected one place, I send it to another, and then another, and then another , and then...

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  		   Posted 12/6/2007 8:18 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jordan Lapp said...
You guys must have sent too much work and overwhelmed the poor guy. Apparently, they're closing to new subs on December 10th.

Any new market that turns up on Ralan's and Duotrope and pays pro rates is going to be deluged with everyone's trunk stories.
 
Submission windows used to annoy me, but frankly, I'm a convert now - I'd rather a magazine closed its doors and waded through the slush till it catches up.   Frustrating though it is, it's worse to be sitting on subs that have been out for 300+ days with no idea of whether they've even got to a slush reader yet...
 
I haven't heard back on my submission yet.   Duotrope shows 20 outstanding submissions and 5 responses sent out.   That probably means anywhere between 100 and 1000 actual submissions have gone there.

Brian Dolton
 
Yi Qin stories:
"The Box Of Beautiful Things" - IGMS#3
"The Man Who Was Never Afraid" - Abyss and Apex #20
"Where No Wind Blows" - Staffs & Starships #2 (forthcoming)
"What The Sea Refuses" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"At Blue Crane Falls" - Abyss and Apex (forthcoming)
"What The Heart Bears" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
 
Other Land Of Wind And Ghosts stories:
"The Dragon Path" - Fictitious Force (forthcoming)
"Three Out Of Four" - Sorcerous Signals (forthcoming)
 
Stories in other settings:
"The Unicorn Hunter" - OG's Speculative Fiction #8
"When Winter Came" - ASIM#32 (forthcoming)
"Cold Fire" - Flashing Swords (forthcoming)
"Call Centre" - Necrotic Tissue (forthcoming)

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  		   Posted 12/10/2007 1:54 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I got a submission in just under the deadline. As luck would have it, I just finished up a story and they seemed like a good fit. (Even though we really don't know much about what they publish, or will publish as the case may be.)

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  		   Posted 12/17/2007 10:51 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
My rejection arrived over the weekend.

Brian Dolton
 
Yi Qin stories:
"The Box Of Beautiful Things" - IGMS#3
"The Man Who Was Never Afraid" - Abyss and Apex #20
"Where No Wind Blows" - Staffs & Starships #2 (forthcoming)
"What The Sea Refuses" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"At Blue Crane Falls" - Abyss and Apex (forthcoming)
"What The Heart Bears" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
 
Other Land Of Wind And Ghosts stories:
"The Dragon Path" - Fictitious Force (forthcoming)
"Three Out Of Four" - Sorcerous Signals (forthcoming)
 
Stories in other settings:
"The Unicorn Hunter" - OG's Speculative Fiction #8
"When Winter Came" - ASIM#32 (forthcoming)
"Cold Fire" - Flashing Swords (forthcoming)
"Call Centre" - Necrotic Tissue (forthcoming)

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