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 |  Lyn Adopt

       Date Joined Sep 2007 Total Posts : 1357 | Posted 3/26/2008 12:03 AM (GMT -4) |   | | | |
 |  ennubi Neophyte

       Date Joined Nov 2007 Total Posts : 84 | Posted 3/26/2008 12:14 AM (GMT -4) |   | i've got a parallel problem....it's not the ending that's typically a problem, but the combat.
the, okay, now how do i kill x and position y over here at the end of the fight and not make it sound like two year olds going at each other with paper towel rolls?
i've stalled for as long as week to just sit down and attempt the fight. i think what always kills me is the fencing....it's really, really hard to make the combat sound realistic 'cause i've done the sport.
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 |  tchernabyelo Acolyte
        Date Joined Oct 2006 Total Posts : 434 | Posted 3/26/2008 6:47 AM (GMT -4) |   | But fencing has precious little to do with real combat, and real people trying to kill each other.
I'm intrigued by your comment about "position Y over here". People aer normally highly mobile in a fight (if they have any sense), so it's surely easily hand-waved to have protagonist finish in a position that the plot requires? Brian Dolton
Yi Qin stories:
"The Box Of Beautiful Things" - IGMS#3
"The Man Who Was Never Afraid" - Abyss and Apex #20
"At Blue Crane Falls" - Abyss and Apex #25 "Where No Wind Blows" - Staffs & Starships #2
"What The Sea Refuses" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"What The Heart Bears" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"Above The Clouds" - Paper Blossoms, Sharpened Steel (forthcoming)
Other Land Of Wind And Ghosts stories:
"The Dragon Path" - Fictitious Force (forthcoming)
"Three Out Of Four" - Sorcerous Signals Feb-Apr 08
Stories in other settings:
"The Unicorn Hunter" - OG's Speculative Fiction #8
"Call Centre" - Necrotic Tissue #1
"When Winter Came" - ASIM #32
"Cold Fire" - Flashing Swords #9
"St. Saviour And The Devil's Dandy" - Flashing Swords (forthcoming) | | Back to Top | | |
 |  ennubi Neophyte

       Date Joined Nov 2007 Total Posts : 84 | Posted 3/26/2008 7:44 AM (GMT -4) |   | exactly :). fencing has given me just enough of a touch of the actual taste of what combat *might* be like that i have a high respect, maybe too high, for the actual. i'm always nervous i won't be realistic enough given no one's actually ever tried to kill me :).
position y isn't always easy to achieve :), at least not for me who has no spacial sense worth mentioning. good case in point is a scene out of a defunct book i was working on. lead and his treacherous buddy where in a graveyard where they were to be ambushed. i needed them to end up in a tomb, spot y, so they could find the secret passage and head out from the city. so....how to force them into a certain little building in an area full of them? my friends thought i was nuts, but a lunch with lots of muttering, the salt shaker, the pepper shaker, and various french fries finally got me seeing where the other building were in the relation to the target and how to possibly set up a roof top crossfire. this is where that nobody ever tried to kill me thing comes back into play too :). wanted to see it very, very sharply before i tried to write it.
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 |  FredLand Stablehand
        Date Joined Mar 2008 Total Posts : 19 | Posted 3/26/2008 12:17 PM (GMT -4) |   | I've hit that wall so many times it makes me furious. So now I never begin a story unless I have a well thought-out ending first. It helps. The story may not be any better because if it but at least it gets finished.
I have a story that's been sitting around for months because of the ending. I love the story and I know where it should go but there it sits like a stain on the carpet that I keep reminding myself to clean.
I feel your pain!
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 |  Keralen Adept

       Date Joined Mar 2006 Total Posts : 529 | Posted 3/26/2008 1:36 PM (GMT -4) |   | | The climax often is the first thing that occurs to me, being the most exciting part of the story. It's getting everybody there that's the hard part for me! | | Back to Top | | |
 |  Lyn Adopt

       Date Joined Sep 2007 Total Posts : 1357 | Posted 3/26/2008 4:03 PM (GMT -4) |   | | | |
 |  FredLand Stablehand
        Date Joined Mar 2008 Total Posts : 19 | Posted 3/26/2008 8:07 PM (GMT -4) |   | Good call, Lyn. I'm a big fan of opening scenes that grab the attention.
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 |  FredLand Stablehand
        Date Joined Mar 2008 Total Posts : 19 | Posted 3/26/2008 8:12 PM (GMT -4) |   | Keralen, good for you on the climax part. My problem is I can think of an exciting journey and don't know what to do when I get there. That's why I write only if I have a good climax in mind.
Good Luck,
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   |  crystalwizard Forum Moderator

       Date Joined Nov 2006 Total Posts : 4748 | Posted 3/28/2008 3:03 AM (GMT -4) |   | | | |
 |  Rob Mancebo Adept
        Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 911 | Posted 3/28/2008 4:57 AM (GMT -4) |   |
T A Markitan said... Had most of it tapped out in an afternoon, but then I got to the climax of the story . . . and drew a total blank on how to resolve the action. I knew the what, who lived, why, where it ended, but not the how. It's still eluding me.
Anyone else freeze up at the peak of the action?
- This is the climax. It needs to be-- It needs to be-- He should-- She should--
- No- no- no- no-! Bad writer! Bad writer! Smack yourself on the hand!  You've been sucked into the dreaded vortex of the 'Writer's block'!
- Forget quality. Forget 'getting it right'. Forget even making it good. Just put on your high-topped boots, grit your teeth, and start shoveling manure.
- Just-write-the-G.D.-story!
- ' Joe pushed jim off a cliff. The end.' (well, okay, a little more than that.)
- Doesn't matter if its done in baby-talk, or greek, geek, or hyper-text, or miss-spelled, or chicken scratch-on-cardboard. Once you write 'something' down from your artistic-brain, your 'logical-brain' will correct and finish it during editing.
- One side of the brain is artistic/creative the other is logical. Trying to make things right during 'creation' is a killer of inspiration and creator of 'writer's block'.
- You have to get the artistic brain to put something (anything!) down for your normal, logical brain to work with. (Most people work with their logic more than their art so the artistic-brain is harder to access.)
- Begin typing: This is garbage. This is trash. This is garbage. This is trash. . . . .
- Continue that mantra until you just start writing the simple words that need to be written to tell how the story ends. You'll fill holes and correct things later. Just build the frame as a draft--a rough draft--and your editing skills will ask-and-answer all the questions to fill it in later.
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