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Nathaniel Morgan
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   Posted 9/6/2007 9:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Hello all,

I was pointed towards this forum by my friend Firlefanz. We know each other from other writing forums and workshops.

I primarily write fantasy and literary fiction, with the rare soft Sci-Fi piece. I’m slowly writing less and less Lit-Fic due to disgruntlement with the market.

I’m not sure how to describe my fantasy. Perhaps if Hemingway and Ray Bradbury mind-melded, then did tequila shots with , Ursula K. LeGuinn, Robert Heinlein and Mark Twain the result would be something like what I write. If that sounds like an utter mess, then I’ve hit close to the mark. :p   

Perhaps someone who has read my work can better describe it.

In real life I'm a single father of two, living on about 20 acres in Central Texas.  I'm permanently 29 and refuse to get any older.  I retired from a suit and tie job in the big city to spend more time with my kids, and to pick the grapes, peaches and pecans that grow on my land and watch my kids swim in the river out back.

In my youth I held every job imaginable: upper level administration for a large company, EMT, Martial Arts instructor, Engineering and Logistics consultant for a large scale engineering firm,  Professional MMA Fighter, carpenter, vet-tech, etc.

My Hobbies are: Travel, Backcountry Hiking and Camping, Martial Arts, Gunsmithing (AR family and Rem 700's), 3-Gun, Painting,  Anthropology, Music (Classical Guitar, Metal, Folk, Blues etc.), Exercising and generally bouncing around the world learning things and getting into trouble.

In addition to my native Texan I speak conversational Spanish(Tejano).  I also speak a smattering of other languages so feel free to give me a try if you speak something other than English.  I never regret looking a new word up.

I'm still waiting on that first pro sale.

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   Posted 9/6/2007 9:50 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome Nathaniel :) Glad to have you here. I'm a bit boggled by the thought of hemingway and bradbury mind-melding.

Native Texan eh? What part of Texas? You still in Texas?


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Nathaniel Morgan
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   Posted 9/6/2007 9:56 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Crystal: 
 
I live about an hour and a half North of Austin. 
 
Are you in Texas as well?
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   Posted 9/6/2007 10:05 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
yep. Just north of Forth Worth. How far are you from Stephenville? It's south of me, around an hour or so. any where close?


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   Posted 9/6/2007 10:13 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
 
It's been forever since I've been to Stephenville.  I'ld guess it's about an hour to an hour and a half North of me.  I live pretty close to the Killeen/Ft. Hood area.
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   Posted 9/6/2007 10:33 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ah. Okay. There's a book signing at the Hastings in Stephenville on the 20th of October. Should be several fantasy and spec. fiction authors there. Think you're close enough to make it up?


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Nathaniel Morgan
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   Posted 9/6/2007 10:56 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I might be able to get away for it.  Is there a website or any information on where it will be, how long, etc?
 
Do you attend any of the TX conventions like dillocon etc.? 
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I have to start attending cons next year, but I have every intention of attention Fencon this year. I've got a story entered in the contest.


There's no website that I know of for the book signing. One of the members of a fantasy list I'm on works at that Hastings and mentioned it.

Here's what she said:

Hastings Bookstore

2900 W. Washington St.

Stephenville, TX 76401

The signing is scheduled for Saturday, October 20,
2007, from 11-2 at the Hastings Bookstore in
Stephenville, TX. It’s really easy to find--it sits on
the main drag, which is Hwy 67/377, which cuts
southwest from Dallas to Brownwood.

A couple of the authors who will be there are Rachel Caine and Carole Nelson Douglas.

I'm sure they'd love to have anyone who can get there show up. It should be a lot of fun.
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   Posted 9/7/2007 12:13 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome, Nathanial. A mixture of genre and more classic influences is surely to be a strength.


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   Posted 9/7/2007 2:27 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome, Nathaniel.

I'm glad you joined, it'll be fun to enter competitions and anthologies together and maybe, join forces in a ToC eventually.

jumpin


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   Posted 9/7/2007 2:35 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome!


Read me in 2007!
"The View From the Shotglass Floor" Ray Gun Revival, Feb 2007
"Voice of the Spoiler" The Sword Review, June 2007
"Servant of the Manthycore" The Sword Review, July 2007
"Darkling I Listen; and for Many a Time" Fear and Trembling, coming soon!
"Weaving Spiders Come Not Here" The Sword Review, August 2007
"Six Zombies Doing That Mick Jagger Strut" Damned in Dixie, Summer 2007
"Nothing But Our Tears" The Sword Review, September 2007
"Night of Shadows, Night of Knives" Magic and Mechanica, Fall 2007
"The Scarlet Colored Beast" The Sword Review, October 2007
"The Stars by Law, Forbidden" Unparalleled Journeys II, November 2007
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   Posted 9/7/2007 8:59 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome! I always enjoy observing Type A's from a safe distance.

Your fantasy sounds like an intriguing combo--I'm eager to read some. :-)
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   Posted 9/7/2007 9:53 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Let me reassure you that Nathaniel's stories are well worth a read (I had some sneak previews). I hope that you'll be able to enjoy them in print some time soon.

:-)


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   Posted 9/7/2007 10:50 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome Nathaniel! Always great to have members with Litfic backgrounds!

If there are more conventions in Texas, keep me posted, since I'll be in Mexico City for a few months beginning Monday, and maybe I'll be able to get away for one.
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   Posted 9/7/2007 1:57 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Charles and Michael: Thanks for the warm welcome.

Michael: I'm BaneBlade on Firles forum.

H.P. Lovesauce: Wow, I did a good job with that introduction if you think I'm type A.   I'm actually a bit of a hermit when I'm not travelling.   I need my solitude when writing.

Gustavo: I have a link to some Texas conventions I'll look for. I envy you I haven't been to Mexico in a few years.

Firle: :P Thanks. ;)
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Hello, and welcome!


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   Posted 9/8/2007 12:57 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Glad you found us.

Mike


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   Posted 9/8/2007 12:27 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome to the boards! Might I ask what your gnawing point with the literary market is? I've been trying to crack into those mags for some time now, with very little success.

Robert Orme


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"The Scab, the Man, and the I.V." in Mount Zion Speculative Fiction Review #3 (www.mountzionpress.com)

Coming soon:
"Time in a Capsule" in Unparalleled Journeys II (www.journeybookspublishing.com/)
"Replacing Someone" in Aoife's Kiss #26, September 2008 (http://samsdotpublishing.com/aoife/main.htm)
"More Than One Way to Protect" in Lords of Justice (www.carnifexpress.net/blogs/)

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   Posted 9/8/2007 2:48 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
ScrewMoonshine said...
Welcome to the boards! Might I ask what your gnawing point with the literary market is? I've been trying to crack into those mags for some time now, with very little success.

Robert Orme

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I suppose my disgruntlement stems from a few issues.
 
1.  There is a bad joke going around that literary fiction magazines and journals are only read by writers with literary degrees who have yet to publish a sucessful mainstream novel, and by professors of said literary programs.  The result being that a large portion of thier reader base is writers who are submitting to them.
 
2.  The majority of literary fiction is centered around New York and LA.  Most of the editors and publishers live in the Northeast.
 
My literary fiction has a strong sense of place.   My voice and the voices of my characters are often distinctly Southwestern.  I write about the world that I know and grew up in.  
 
I might have more luck if wrote as Faulkner did, as he is quite popular among that crowd.  But that isn't my story to tell. 
 
My stories about people travelling outside the U.S. tend to be better recieved. 
 
3.  There is a certain perspective, philosphy, and political leaning among editors of lit fic journals, that my stories tend to inflame.  I find this odd since I don't tend to be preachy about politics, or try to forward any particular idealogy. 
 
One critique partner disliked a scene I wrote about a small farm in Mexico.  Her complaints centered around a scene that detailed the butchering of chickens.  She said something about being a vegetarian but understanding that not everyone was.  Then she complained that the scene nauseated her.  This baffled me because it wasn't graphic or detailed in the least.  It was merely a backdrop for more important things that were happening in the story.   So I asked her to be more specific.  She said it was the fact that I had a young child, who she had grown attached to, doing much of the butchering.  She felt that I had used the child for shock value (apparently it worked), and that it was uneccessary.  It never occured to me that someone wouldn't realize that children help with ALL the chores on a farm.  They are not sheltered from those particular jobs.  As a child I often helped my father butcher meat, and then hang it in our smoker.
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   Posted 9/9/2007 12:03 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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One critique partner disliked a scene I wrote about a small farm in Mexico. Her complaints centered around a scene that detailed the butchering of chickens. She said something about being a vegetarian but understanding that not everyone was. Then she complained that the scene nauseated her. This baffled me because it wasn't graphic or detailed in the least. It was merely a backdrop for more important things that were happening in the story. So I asked her to be more specific. She said it was the fact that I had a young child, who she had grown attached to, doing much of the butchering. She felt that I had used the child for shock value (apparently it worked), and that it was unnecessary. It never occured to me that someone wouldn't realize that children help with ALL the chores on a farm. They are not sheltered from those particular jobs. As a child I often helped my father butcher meat, and then hang it in our smoker.


Wow, that's one of the most unusual criticisms for a story I've heard of. Strange, too. I'm a purebred sheltered suburban boy, and it doesn't surprise me at all that children living on a farm help butcher animals. If I'd given the matter a moment's thought, I daresay I'd have expected that they would.

Robert Orme


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"On the Tree Top" in Ultraverse vol.3 #5 (www.ultraverse.us)
"The Scab, the Man, and the I.V." in Mount Zion Speculative Fiction Review #3 (www.mountzionpress.com)

Coming soon:
"Time in a Capsule" in Unparalleled Journeys II (www.journeybookspublishing.com/)
"Replacing Someone" in Aoife's Kiss #26, September 2008 (http://samsdotpublishing.com/aoife/main.htm)
"More Than One Way to Protect" in Lords of Justice (www.carnifexpress.net/blogs/)

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   Posted 9/9/2007 5:23 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Robert,

I found it strange as well.  I find it hard to believe anyone could be that naive.  Perhaps there was some other issue I wasn't picking up on.  I simply didn't place much stock in the complaint.

 

I'ld be intersted to hear your take on the market as well.  Here, in another post, or via PM if you prefer.  I've certainly noticed feedback on rejections seems to be a lot less frequent than in the Sci-Fi/Fantasy markets.

Where have you submitted to?
 
I've been bounced by:
 The Atlantic Monthly, Georgia Review, and Glimmer Train (broke my rule about not submitting to places with reading fees on this one) recently.  I'ld have to check my files to see where some of the earlier ones went...
 

Edited to Add:  Hi mike.  Hi Dan.  Thanks for the welcome.
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Nathaniel Morgan said...
I find it hard to believe anyone could be that naive.


They are. Trust me on this. There are lots of people who have children of their own that couldn't tell you where milk comes from, what animal provided the steak they are eating and who would get violently ill if you took them to a real farm and let them watch something being butchered.
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   Posted 9/9/2007 9:53 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I grew up on a farm myself, in Arkansas, and like Nathanial said, children help with all the chores, including butchering chickens. It certainly is incredibly naive for that person to believe you'd had a child butcher chickens for the "shock" value. I know people are that naive from teaching in the city now, but it still amazes me.


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Welcome, Nathaniel.  I like your hobbies--we share several of them.

I grew up helping on my Grandpa's farm and generally exposed to all the nitty-gritty of getting food on the table, but one doesn't have to live on a farm to understand these things.  Many books offer lots of setting details like that.  I wonder what your critique spent her time reading?


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Welcome Nathaniel, you sound like quite the addition to the clubhouse! Hemingway, Bradbury, LeGuinn, Heinlein and Twain, huh? That was Churchill, wasn't it?


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