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Rob Mancebo
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Anthony G Williams said...
If I wrote a story set in the 19th century, I couldn't resist featuring one of those wonderful four-barrel Lancaster pistols devil
 
-  That would be a good item since most folks have never heard of them.  I understand that they were very popular with the British Army despite the fact that revolvers were available.  It was said that they were 'more reliable' (which sounds strange to me as I've heard nothing but praise for even the early Addams revolvers from England.) 
 
-  Sounds like a good item for a 'Steam-punk' story.


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Oh, there's a bunch of rare, cool weapons from the 19th century. One of my favorites is the LeMat, a 9-shot percussion cap revolver with a second barrel that fires a shotgun blast! Even the Volcano repeaters are interesting, but I've never fired one and they look sort of clumsy.


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darkbow said...
Oh, there's a bunch of rare, cool weapons from the 19th century. One of my favorites is the LeMat, a 9-shot percussion cap revolver with a second barrel that fires a shotgun blast! Even the Volcano repeaters are interesting, but I've never fired one and they look sort of clumsy.

 
-  LeMat, ah yes, a favorite of JEB Stuart.  Most civil war buffs will recognize that one.  I've got one out in the safe that was my father-in-law's.  Very nice but they point like an old single-shot rather than a revolver (different grip style). 
 
-  The Volcanic action was simply beefed-up to become the Winchester 66 (Via the Henry). 
The volcanic fired an impotent little 'rocketball' cartridge (Like a German 'Needle-gun).  Not a bad action, but a terrible round.  So B.Tyler Henry, Winchester's foreman, created the rimfire .44 cartridge to use with it and the Volcanic was turned into a repeating rifle.  They called it the 'Henry Rifle' after the foreman, but in 1866 when they added a split firing pin and a loading gate, it was re-named the 'Winchester 66' (The serial numbers of the Henry and the Winchester 66 overlap.)  [As a side-note, as soon as those cartridges hit the market, all sorts of people side-stepped the Smith&Wesson patent and drilled out their cap-lock Colts and Remingtons to take the new .44 cartridges.  No more cap fragments in the action--no more wet powder--faster to load.  That's what every pistolero had been waiting for!]
 
-  So, if you want to fire a 'Volcanic', just swing by some Cowboy Action Shooting and borrow someone's Henry or Winchester '66 you'll be using the same action. 
 
 
 
 
 


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Oh, I've fired plenty of lever action rifles, including modern versions of the Henry and Winchesters. One of my favorites is a Marlin in .357 magnum with an octagon barrel. I've just never fired one of the Volcanic pistols, and was thinking the action would be clumsy and/or difficult for a handgun. I guess if you got used to it, it might not be so bad, but for me, I still can't see how it could be as fast (or easy) as a Colt or Remington (my own preferred period revolver, specifically the modern Uberti Outlaw version).


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darkbow said...
 I've just never fired one of the Volcanic pistols, and was thinking the action would be clumsy and/or difficult for a handgun. I guess if you got used to it, it might not be so bad, but for me, I still can't see how it could be as fast (or easy) as a Colt or Remington (my own preferred period revolver, specifically the modern Uberti Outlaw version).
-  I can't see how it wouldn't be clumsy in a pistol.  But the rounds were water-proof and it was a time of experimentation.  In 1855 there were a lot of very good revolvers that would've done a better job all around.  All the versions I've seen are engraved so it may have been marketed as more of a gentleman's oddity--just for the 'coolness' factor of having a repeating pistol. 


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