SFReader.com : Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Horror Book Reviews & more      SFWatcher.com : Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Horror Movie Review



  Home | Log In | Register | Calendar | Search | Help
   
SFReader Forums > SFReader > Ask The Expert > Chap Book Advances  Forum Quick Jump
 
New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
[ << Previous Thread | Next Thread >> | Show Newest Post First ]

nathan
Sage



Email Address Not AvailablePersonal Homepage Not AvailablePrivate Messaging Not AvailableAIM Not AvailableICQ Not AvailableY! Not AvailableMSN Not Available
Date Joined Mar 2006
Total Posts : 2111
  		   Posted 4/8/2008 5:16 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As an industry standard for inclusion in pro writing orgs the minimal advance on a novel is 2 thousand dollars. Probablly, roughly, 8-12k is an average ballparked figure for a mmpb deal with 20k being "good" and points north being better as you go.
 
What does this shake out to with a Chapter Book Reader for ages 7-12? Is there a minimal "pro" level and if so what is it? How does the book being nonfiction affect that.
 
I'm finding this a bit of a will 'o wisp to track down on the i-net. I don't know if I'm putting the wrong buzz words into my google search or if this info is just uncommon. But either way if anyone had an even general guess-timate I'd appreciate it.
 
Thanks much guys.

VIEW IMAGE
"Writing the wet dreams of teenage boys" - Lindsey Llyod, Tangent Reviews
 
Tarantino himself has been forward and unapologetic about his influences. In a 1994 interview with Empire magazine, he said, "I steal from every single movie ever made. If people don't like that, then tough tills, don't go and see it, all right? I steal from everything. Great artists steal, they don't do homages."

Back to Top
 

MysticWino
anarchist fringe monkey boddhisatva



Email Address Not AvailablePersonal Homepage Not AvailablePrivate Messaging Not AvailableAIM Not AvailableICQ Not AvailableY! Not AvailableMSN Not Available
Date Joined May 2007
Total Posts : 1607
  		   Posted 4/9/2008 2:13 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Have you tried googling a writers organization dedicated to writers of children's fiction? idea

Read me soon in The Return of the Sword!
Blog: http://bitterhermit.wordpress.com
Buy wine: http://fringemonkey.org
Poetry Blog: http://fringemonkey.wordpress.com

Back to Top
 

nathan
Sage



Email Address Not AvailablePersonal Homepage Not AvailablePrivate Messaging Not AvailableAIM Not AvailableICQ Not AvailableY! Not AvailableMSN Not Available
Date Joined Mar 2006
Total Posts : 2111
  		   Posted 4/9/2008 2:22 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks D. I'm looking for a weather report and you tell me to open a window up and look outside turn
 
What I ended up with was 2 formulas that prob equal the same. The first one is they figure out a print run then you get 7-10% of that as an advance.
 
The second is that "they" pay advance, not royalties with 2-5k being the ballpark range but often dipping as low as 1 grand. But since we're talking as little as 30 pages its still not horrible.

VIEW IMAGE
"Writing the wet dreams of teenage boys" - Lindsey Llyod, Tangent Reviews
 
Tarantino himself has been forward and unapologetic about his influences. In a 1994 interview with Empire magazine, he said, "I steal from every single movie ever made. If people don't like that, then tough tills, don't go and see it, all right? I steal from everything. Great artists steal, they don't do homages."

Back to Top
 

crystalwizard
Forum Moderator



Email Address Not AvailablePersonal Homepage Not AvailablePrivate Messaging Not AvailableAIM Not AvailableICQ Not AvailableY! Not AvailableMSN Not Available
Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 4717
  		   Posted 4/9/2008 3:26 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I thought chapbooks were primarily put out on the cheapest scale possible?

Never meddle in the affairs of a wizard unless you are soggy and hard to light!



Managing Editor of Flashing Swords

Visit my art gallery on art wanted
All my books in print

Back to Top
 

nathan
Sage



Email Address Not AvailablePersonal Homepage Not AvailablePrivate Messaging Not AvailableAIM Not AvailableICQ Not AvailableY! Not AvailableMSN Not Available
Date Joined Mar 2006
Total Posts : 2111
  		   Posted 4/9/2008 3:44 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
crystalwizard said...
I thought chapbooks were primarily put out on the cheapest scale possible?
Sure?
 I don't think I'm getting the question in your statement.

VIEW IMAGE
"Writing the wet dreams of teenage boys" - Lindsey Llyod, Tangent Reviews
 
Tarantino himself has been forward and unapologetic about his influences. In a 1994 interview with Empire magazine, he said, "I steal from every single movie ever made. If people don't like that, then tough tills, don't go and see it, all right? I steal from everything. Great artists steal, they don't do homages."

Back to Top
 

MysticWino
anarchist fringe monkey boddhisatva



Email Address Not AvailablePersonal Homepage Not AvailablePrivate Messaging Not AvailableAIM Not AvailableICQ Not AvailableY! Not AvailableMSN Not Available
Date Joined May 2007
Total Posts : 1607
  		   Posted 4/9/2008 5:22 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

The thread title seems to confuse the issue a bit.

Chapbooks are table-top books of relatively low quality that those of us savvy to it can cook up at home for cheap.

Chapter Books are short, usually illustrated, books for small children.

Some people confuse the two. But it's pretty obvious when the price comes into play. Chapbooks tend to run under or close to $7.00 per copy, whereas Chapter Books tend to cost much more. You might say that the Suess collection are Chapter Books.

Of course, the best chapbook I've seen was something called The Caine Agenda or something like that . . . Darn good novella. Very nice presentation, too. Too bad it's out of print . . .

crystalwizard said...
I thought chapbooks were primarily put out on the cheapest scale possible?

Read me soon in The Return of the Sword!
Blog: http://bitterhermit.wordpress.com
Buy wine: http://fringemonkey.org
Poetry Blog: http://fringemonkey.wordpress.com

Back to Top
 

nathan
Sage



Email Address Not AvailablePersonal Homepage Not AvailablePrivate Messaging Not AvailableAIM Not AvailableICQ Not AvailableY! Not AvailableMSN Not Available
Date Joined Mar 2006
Total Posts : 2111
  		   Posted 4/9/2008 5:26 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
MysticWino said...

Of course, the best chapbook I've seen was something called The Caine Agenda or something like that . . . Darn good novella. Very nice presentation, too. Too bad it's out of print . . .

Well sort of. Now Bolan kills him. Still, as long as it can inspire, even if only partially, a kick ass SoC lit story about a psyopathic assassin, I'm happy the spirit isn't dead.

VIEW IMAGE
"Writing the wet dreams of teenage boys" - Lindsey Llyod, Tangent Reviews
 
Tarantino himself has been forward and unapologetic about his influences. In a 1994 interview with Empire magazine, he said, "I steal from every single movie ever made. If people don't like that, then tough tills, don't go and see it, all right? I steal from everything. Great artists steal, they don't do homages."

Back to Top
 
New Topic Post Reply Printable Version
 
Forum Information
Currently it is Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:45 PM (GMT -4)
There are a total of 81,411 posts in 6,531 threads.
In the last 3 days there were 31 new threads and 154 reply posts. View Active Threads
Who's Online
This forum has 1252 registered members. Please welcome our newest member, Yavuz_the_Blade.
13 Guest(s), 4 Registered Member(s) are currently online.  Details
TL Morganfield, SC Bryce, crystalwizard, Daniel Ausema
Forum powered by dotNetBB v2.42EC SP2
dotNetBB © 2000-2008
(c) SFReader
Need Support? | Forum Help Manual