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  |  MichaelEhart Sage

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 2352 | Posted 3/25/2008 9:52 PM (GMT -5) |   | Underdescribe. Click here to buy my book!
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 |  darkbow Rabbit lord

       Date Joined Oct 2005 Total Posts : 1763 | Posted 3/25/2008 10:50 PM (GMT -5) |   | | | |
    |  Nicholas Sage

       Date Joined Jun 2006 Total Posts : 1067 | Posted 3/26/2008 11:55 AM (GMT -5) |   | |
Jack, excellent advise to you from the previous posts--pros all (and many of them, note, are editors who see such stories on a daily basis).
Rather than repeating any of what has been said, I will add another thought:
Monsters can be cool, scary, unusual, frightening, disturbing, whatever--BUT if they do not pose a real threat to the heroes, they are just very strange-looking roadbumps.
Make it CLEAR that a monster is not just an irritation or annoyance to the hero; for a monster to be really threatening and memorable there must be a cost. If the reader feels that the odds are as likely that the monster will kill the hero as that the hero will kill the monster, you will generate real suspense. To fear the monster, the reader must respect the monster. Respect its very real threat.
Granted, this can be exceedingly difficult to pull off in a novel or series where the main heroes are clearly going to survive to the end. [So, shhh, this is just between us: create a hero or two who will end up being killed by the monster. Or maybe the HERO hero is somehow scarred--physically or mentally--by his encounter with the monster. Especially effective if he must later face the same monster again (think Moby Dick). Then there is a real cost.]
Plus all the other stuff Paul, Michael, Ty, Lyn, G.W., and Richard said.
Good luck. And remember to tap into one of the best resources for monsters: your own nightmares.
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 |  erazmus Master

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 4557 | Posted 3/26/2008 2:04 PM (GMT -5) |   | And how does a monster differ from a human opponent? If your monsters are flat but your villians seem okay, you are approaching the monster as something other than a character.
Sometimes it is helpful to look at someone writing in your field and see how they do, or did, it. In Sword and Sorcery I look back at a story with a monster fight that really stuck with me. One such monster and the battle with it that really stands out was, of all places, in John Norman's Nomads of Gor-- the monster of the yellow pool. Now Norman isn't normally a writer I call on others to study, but when he gets something right is usually stands out, which can make it easier to see what worked and why. If IRC its on pages 195-215 or so on The Daw paperback editions of Nomads of Gor.
Of course thats just one way to handle a monster. Howard did a good scene with a giant spider in "Tower of the Elephant" that is worth reading, and his story "Queen of the Black Coast" uses a winged Ape-thing rather effectively as well. Poul Anderson got terrific effect in a fight between Sir Holger and a troll in "Three Hearts and Three Lions".
Of course this is all good and well only if you are writing heroic fantasy or Sword and Sorcery. Other sub-genres have slightly different expectations and troupes. Horror/adventure writers could do worse than to reference Nancy A. Collins' Sonja Blue stories ("Sunglasses after Dark", "In the Blood" and "Paint it Black" most particularly, all are gathered together in "Midnight Blue" from White Wolf). But of this genre I am less familiar.
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    |  ennubi Neophyte

       Date Joined Nov 2007 Total Posts : 93 | Posted 3/26/2008 11:24 PM (GMT -5) |   | i like monsters like those three [tolkien]. it's not enough for a baddie to look ugly. most people are past the age where a spider or creeper crawler sets them to screaming [although there's been a few women at work....] the big thing, i think, is the malevolence, the intelligent desire to inflict pain and destruction and to satisfy their own cravings regardless of any consequence....i think that's why you can get very evil, very innocent looking villains.
for instance, i remembering reading online about a realm of ravenloft where the domain master was an eleven year old boy!
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    |  erazmus Master

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 4557 | Posted 3/29/2008 2:26 PM (GMT -5) |   | | | |
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