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Anthony G Williams
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  		   Posted 3/7/2008 9:19 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I use Authors OnLine to publish my novels. They have a menu pricing system, and publish ebooks and hard copies, the latter using LSI. See: http://www.authorsonline.co.uk/publish_with_us/
 
 

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MR Hicks
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  		   Posted 3/5/2008 5:40 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
hmmm. well, this is a bit off-topic, perhaps, but now that we're onto LSI, it looks like that's probably the only practical alternative (at least from the self-publishing angle) for a hardcopy version of my book. even at 6x9, i'm looking at roughly 600 pages. if i understand the pricing correctly (and please correct me if i'm wrong!), LSI chargest $0.90 for the binding/cover, and $0.013/page. that puts the production cost to LSI somewhere around $8.70.

if i'm doing the math right - and that's debatable!! - if i included a royalty of, let's say, $3 and a discount of 35%, that would put the retail price at $18. that's not cheap, but it's a lot better than lulu, as one example, where the same book (with $3 royalty) prices out to $34.50 (although, granted, the markup on the calculator is 50%). i don't think there are a lot of folks who are going to cough up that much for a novel, regardless of how good it is, and the pricing for the other publishers i've looked at is similar.

so even if i had to fork over $300 for a block of ISBNs, plus the setup charges (what, $100 or so?), marketing-wise LSI would seem to be about the only option i've got.

does that make any sense, or am i missing something glaringly obvious? :-)

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  		   Posted 3/5/2008 12:54 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes, you do have to be a publisher in order to use LSI, because you have to supply the ISBN. To become a publisher, all you have to do is go to bowker.com, and buy 10 ISBN numbers. They're 30 bucks each.

They're not reassignable and you can't sell them, so think seriously before you shell out 300 bucks whether you're gonna do this seriously or not.

But Armand IS a publisher already.

Incidently, Lulu can not legally sell ISBN's either.

I don't recommend LSI for publishing ebooks, unless you don't give them more than a 20% discount.
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  		   Posted 3/5/2008 12:43 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I do think with Lightning Source, you do need to be or become a publisher to use them. It's not quite like Lulu, from what I've been told.

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MR Hicks
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  		   Posted 3/4/2008 9:43 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
armand -

if you haven't already, i'd recommend you check out Lightning Source. they not only can do hardcopy printing and distribution, but they also have ebook services, including securing the digital copies with digital rights management. i don't know all the details (i'm just starting to poke around on that myself), but it looked like a definite possibility... :-)

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mike

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carnifexpress
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  		   Posted 3/2/2008 6:53 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Awesome, thanks for the further info!

Armand Rosamilia

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  		   Posted 3/2/2008 9:02 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
RL-

thanks for the clarification! i guess what i was trying to get at was that, as you noted, putting it on the Kindle doesn't preclude you from publishing elsewhere. :-)

thanks!
mike

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R. L. Copple
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  		   Posted 3/2/2008 12:42 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Actually, in putting it in Kindle, you are granting them non-exclusive digital rights forever. You can pull it off the "shelf" so to speak, but you are required to leave an archive copy there for those who have bought it to download. But, you have the right to put it elsewhere, digitally or otherwise since it is non-exclusive. But you are granting them a right.

I just Kindlized my book, "Infinite Realities" recently.

http://www.amazon.com/Infinite-Realities/dp/B00153LQWC/

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  		   Posted 3/1/2008 12:32 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Armand - if you're considering going the ebook route, if you haven't already, you should probably also consider publishing on the Amazon Kindle. Getting your book put in Kindle format and "deployed" to Amazon via their Digital Text Platform is free, and they pay 35% royalty on the retail price you specify, they have no claim to the rights, etc. Basically a different, but rapidly growing, distribution opportunity...

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  		   Posted 2/19/2008 11:29 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
if you want to do an MSReader version, all you have to do is get the reader plug in for Word. It'll create the MSReader version for you from your manuscript .doc file.

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  		   Posted 2/18/2008 5:56 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
OK, thanks!

Armand

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  		   Posted 2/18/2008 3:34 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Armand - I'd be happy to talk to you about it -- I just emailed you my regular email address.

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  		   Posted 2/18/2008 3:31 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Just curious if anyone puts out eBooks for their small-press company here on this forum and if you'd be willing to talk with me about it?
 
I'm toying with the idea of doing an eBook release or two for Carnifex Press - trying to look at all options to keep afloat here, to be honest - and wonder what it really entails to put them out, while not having to use a company that will try to stamp their own name onto it?
 
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