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AlexMoisi
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   Posted 2/17/2008 8:07 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
A good friend of mine approached me with the idea of starting an e-zine.  She has experience editing and wants the chief editor position(a good thing considering I still have spelling mistakes) but needs someone to set up the whole deal and promote it (that would be me).
 
Since I'm still new to this whole idea I have some questions and I'm curious if people feel this might be of interest.
 
Our plan is to have a quarterly publication where each issue is based on a less explored theme among on-line publications. Some ideas we had were pirates, westerns, dinosaurs etc.
 
We want each issue to be available on our website as well as a free pdf download from lulu and a POD also from lulu. For the print magazine we want to charge an extra dollar we could use to build a fund for paying writers and artists.
Now my question is for this, would we need an ISSN? What is a ISSN exactly?  Also are there any issues (legal or not) we should be aware off?
 
Thank you for your help


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   Posted 2/17/2008 10:14 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You should get an ISSN, yes. And they are free.

an ISBN is the unique number each book gets
the ISSN is the same thing, but for a serial publication, such as a magazine.

Here is where you can get both information about ISSNs AND apply for one:

www.loc.gov/issn/

Again, they are free. do NOT pay anyone to acquire one.
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   Posted 2/18/2008 1:31 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sounds like a fabulous idea.

I do have one concern, and I only mention it because we've run into it at EDF. Who is your target audience? Because themed issues usually attract people who are interested in those themes. I mean, someone who reads Westerns may not be interested in Dinosaur Clowns, or what not. You might get readers who only stick with you for one issue.

At EDF, we sometimes get people who read a sci-fi story in our pages, then stick around until the next day and when they see a contemporary literary piece they unsubscribe. I mean, our subscriber numbers are pretty high, and because it's flash people are more willing to stick around until they get something they like, but with your format, this problem might be amplified.

But good luck. Let me know when it's up and I'll link to it, and even post about it in the EDF forums. We've all gotta help each other out!


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   Posted 2/18/2008 1:28 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The idea seems sound but the market identifier problem is real. A lot of that could be gotten around by a good title.
Look at the themes you mention: Westerns, Pirates, Dinosaurs. They don't lend themselves to any automatic overall binding idea, but they don't limit you much either.
But a title will change what you're offering to the readers and what your submitters think you want. If you called your 'zine "Big Adventures" and announce upcoming issues for Westerns, Pirate stories and Dinosaur stories, what you get will be different than if you called it "Weird Adventures", or "Darn Good Writing Quarterly" for that matter. You can target an audience with the 'zine title more easily than with the theme calender.

Mike (who rather likes "Weird Adventures")


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"An Incident at Black Tongue Tavern" in _Bash Down the Door and Slice Open the Badguy_ from Fantasist Enterprises:

www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php
"Stains" in Tales of the Talisman 3-1 www.zianet.com/hadrosaur/index.html
"Morning Coffee" in Every Day Fiction
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"The Jewel Below" in Flashing Swords
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"Happy Landings" in Every Day Fiction
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"Teller of Tales" in Every day Fiction
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   Posted 2/18/2008 10:27 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
A good title is critical, I think.  I'm personally attracted to pulpy sounding titles.
 
 


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   Posted 2/19/2008 3:55 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Spicy Air Tales!

 

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   Posted 2/20/2008 8:50 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Brontosaur Rum!


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   Posted 2/20/2008 1:43 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Hm. Start with

  • Amazing
    Astounding
    Curious
    Daring
    Shocking
    Spicy
    Strange
    Uncanny
    Weird

Then your subject, then

  • Stories
    Tales
    Fiction

Shocking Jurassic Frontier Nautical Tales!

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   Posted 2/20/2008 1:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Gas Powered Weirdness


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   Posted 2/20/2008 1:56 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
H.P. Lovesauce said...
Hm. Start with

<UL>
<LI>Amazing
Astounding
Curious
Daring
Shocking
Spicy
Strange
Uncanny
Weird</LI></UL>
Then your subject, then

<UL>
<LI>Stories
Tales
Fiction</LI></UL>
Shocking Jurassic Frontier Nautical Tales!


You left out "Fresh" and "Minty" . . .
no wait, those are mouthwash terms.
I meant to say, you left out "Thrilling" and the option for a differentiating middle term like "Derigable" or the prefix different "Air". As in "Shocking Air Tales".
And the last part of the list, don't forget "Mysteries" as in "Shocking Blimp Mysteries". It works in front too as Mysterious. You know "Mysterious Science Stories" or maybe even "Mysterious Fantasy Mysteries" if your stories are going to be, you know, really mysterious.

Mike


Michael D. Turner
"Psyched Up" in _Turn the other Chick_-ed. E. Friesner-Baen books
www.baen.com
"Dutchman Rescue"in Continuum SF #6
www.continuumsciencefiction.com/orders.htm

"An Incident at Black Tongue Tavern" in _Bash Down the Door and Slice Open the Badguy_ from Fantasist Enterprises:

www.fantasistent.com/books/anthologies/BASH.php
"Stains" in Tales of the Talisman 3-1 www.zianet.com/hadrosaur/index.html
"Morning Coffee" in Every Day Fiction
www.everydayfiction.com/morning-coffee-by-michael-d-turner/
"The Jewel Below" in Flashing Swords
flashingswords.sfreader.com/issues/issue8/vol2-iss8-05.htm
"Happy Landings" in Every Day Fiction
www.everydayfiction.com/happy-landings-by-michael-d-turner/
"Teller of Tales" in Every day Fiction
www.everydayfiction.com/teller-of-tales-by-michael-d-turner/
Read "Silver Shells" In Every Day Fiction
www.everydayfiction.com/silver-shells-by-michael-d-turner/

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   Posted 2/20/2008 2:14 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I wonder if a better approach would be to publish your ezine for a while first, without necessarily adhering to a specific theme of "Westerns" or "dinosaurs" or whatever -- just publish good adventure stories of any type -- and then introduce themed issues down the road once you're established.

I suggest this because it seems to me you'll have trouble establishing an identity and a core audience if you start with themes right off the bat. Word about your ezine will spread slowly, and you'll possibly even have trouble attracting authors at first. If you go eclectic from the outset, however, you can draw western fans and dinosaur fans and time travel fans, etc., from the get-go. And if the fiction is good, they'll come back and word will spread faster among a more diverse crowd of fans.

Just my two cents, and I could be wrong. Good luck with the ezine! The world can always use another good source for fiction.


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   Posted 2/20/2008 2:25 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
True about the authors. Sometimes, if an antho has too specific a theme (like the Machine of Death antho), I won't submit to it because I won't be able to submit the story elsewhere if it gets rejected. You might run into the same thing.

Take your proposed "western themed" issue, for instance:

Fact is, there just aren't very many writers of westerns (witness the closing of 1018Press' magazine, which went under before the actual publisher did). At EDF, we've gotten a grand total of two, and even those two had other speculative elements. If you're not SUPER well known, and you put out a call for westerns, you might not get enough quality to publish a full magazine.

I understand that you want to do things differently in order to stand out, but I agree with Steve here. Look at Shimmer magazine: They had a pirate-themed issue, but they published regular issues for a while before that.


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   Posted 2/20/2008 4:09 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I agree, just state you are open to all sorts of sub-genres and list them by name (yes we take westerns, sword and sorcery, we like dinosaurs, crazy adventures, etc.).

I think just being open to and publishing adventure fiction these days is enough to set you apart from the crowd, without doing themed issues. I think themes are best left to anthologies and established magazines, as a once or twice a year thing--the submission logistics alone dictate that before one even considers audience interest.

Another thing comes to mind: paying close attention to the look of the ezine. I've been turned off by so many with cramped frames and ads all over the place...you get the idea. Not saying you need something glitzy, just something clean and professional looking--people are resistant enough to reading stories online, giving them an ugly format won't help.

Some good looking ezines would be Ideomancer, Aberrant Dreams, Chizine, Clarkesworld, Fantasy, Flashing Swords, EDF, and Spacesuits & Sixguns.


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   Posted 2/20/2008 4:44 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
To piggy-back on Bill's post, what Fantasy especially gets right is new content 5 days a week (and even a predictable pattern to that new content--fiction on Monday, reviews on Tuesday, interviews on Wednesday, etc.). Strange Horizons too, though they don't structure it as well, in my opinion. Clarkesworld has become one of my most respected ezines, and they do what they do well (so it's a good example of uncluttered, intuitive design), but having new content only once a month (or once every quarter as Subterranean Online does) isn't likely to be a smart way to begin unless you have some other way to gain notice and respectability (Subterranean has its connection to the publisher and solicited stories from big names, and Clarkesworld has well-known names as editors, a half/half balance of new talent and solicited stories, as well as initially having its connection to a popular book-selling source, which has now switched to a small publisher more or less). But for most ezines, going the route of frequent and varied new content seems the smartest way to go.


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   Posted 2/20/2008 5:32 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Daniel, interesting point on the 'continuous zine' remark - adding new content weekly, if not daily or multiple times a week (MindFlights I know updates 3x a week, I believe). At any rate, I've started updating my zine, ResAliens, once a week with two new stories appearing every weekend - and a new 'letter from the editor' each week to intro the offerings.

But I would say to Alex - go with your gut. There's enough variety out there that you can find a niche if you keep at it. Best wishes on your venture.


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   Posted 2/20/2008 5:33 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
This is why EDF is so popular, I suspect. New content every day. Makes the schedule hectic though.... Couldn't image doing this for anything longer than flash.


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   Posted 2/21/2008 6:47 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think Alex should also be aware, as no doubt some here can attest, that this venture would be a boatload of work.
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   Posted 2/21/2008 11:47 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I am aware this will suck the living soul out of me, but I think I will give it a shot ;)

I have the frame for the website up and hopefully I'll make it oficial this weekend. Then I would like even more feedback regarding hos it looks, feels and behaves ;)

The posts here changed my mind a little though...
There is much to be said about having regular content up. So what I might do(need to talk it out with my chief editor) is accept adventure stories of any type all the time and publish one or two on the wesite every week-ish, but also have a themed publication that will appear in POD and PDF form once every 2-3 months...


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