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H.P. Lovesauce
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Date Joined Jul 2007
Total Posts : 585
| Posted 1/14/2008 1:52 PM (GMT -5) |   | | Why not cut your teeth on "for the love" markets until you're 18? | | Back to Top | | |
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RHFay
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Date Joined Nov 2007
Total Posts : 2014
| Posted 1/14/2008 3:57 PM (GMT -5) | |
M. A. Shah said...Thats bad. It makes you think your writings have no value.
Never, ever, ever feel that "4 the luv" markets make your work seem like it has no value. While getting money for your writing is great, like Crystawizard has already said, there are other ways to value your writing.
Not all the "4 the Luv Markets" are the same. Some are indeed only ways for people to publish their own works and slap the title "editor" after their name (and I ran into problems at one such place). However, I know of at least one that only pays for the lead story that has an editor that is also the editor or co-editor of other small press print magazines, venues that do pay as a rule (even if it is a token amount). I also know of a few "4 the Luv" venues where I have shared the TOC with poets that have also appeared in various small press publications, various paying venues.
Look into places like Bewildering Stories, Aphelion, and others. They are not valueless by any means.
"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" Andrew of Armar.
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions
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RHFay
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Date Joined Nov 2007
Total Posts : 2014
| Posted 1/14/2008 4:11 PM (GMT -5) | |
crystalwizard said...Don't feel alone, either. Lots of writer's have told me that their parents weren't overly happy with them spending their time writing. Remember your parents are trying to look out for your welfare and your father, regardless of how you might feel about his restrictions, really does want you to have the best chance at life. Worry about stuff like making money off your words a couple of years down the line. For now, build your resume. There are a lot of places that you can submit for publication that don't pay. While that doesn't help the bank account, it gets you publication credit AND begins to build a fan base. People that have seen your name in print, enjoyed your writing and are looking for other things you've had published.
My mother made a few "starving artist" cracks years ago. Parents can be like that, I guess. My side of the family never really understood my desire to do something creative. I think they thought it was just a phase.
Yeah, a phase that's I've been going through, on-and-off (mostly off until recently, unfortunately) for the past twenty years!
M. A.,
Do you have any hobbies? Does your father object to you having other hobbies?
Some people like to work on old cars as a hobby, while others like to knit sweaters or collect stamps. Writing is how you like to spend your free time. And writing might not only enrich your own life, but it can enrich the lives of your readers as well. Readers always come away from a really good story with something, even if it's just a good laugh, or a good cry, or a brief escape to another world.
In my opinion, that's quite an admirable way to spend one's free time!
"I'm going to do what the warriors of old did. I'm going to recite poetry!" Andrew of Armar.
Richard H. Fay - Azure Lion Productions
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crystalwizard
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 5196
| Posted 1/15/2008 2:30 AM (GMT -5) | | M. A. Shah said...
I guess the starving artist thing is what it is with my father. But I fancy myself as a part-time freelance writer, and i am working really hard to get into the College as an engineer.
And you will need to know how to write in order to get through college with good marks. What you need to do is show your father that your writing has value in his eyes. So, point out to him that there are lots of written essays and other work you must do in college and that even if you are writing fiction now, you are still learning how to put the written word on the page in a way that will sit well with your professors.
M. A. Shah said...
And yes my father objects to any hobby that i have. The high school i go to is the biggest in the region and i host a lot of shows and programs and stuff there. They call me the king of the stage. My father has his objections there.
And i do fairly good at art as in painting and stuff. More objections.
Well i am stubborn too. I write at night under the covers with a torch for light. I type during the day when my father is off to his office.
And yes, one more question. It isnt the money. i just want to know if the paying markets could act like the 4 the love markets?
not sure what you mean by 'if the paying markets could act like the 4 the love markets'. Please clarify your question.
As far as your father goes, a lot of parents are like that. They have a road map they feel is the only way for their child to get where they feel their child needs to go. Put yourself in the shoes of the parent for a minute, with a child you care very much about, and think about how you'd feel if you saw your chlid going in a direction you couldn't see any value in. You'd be distressed.
What you have to do is show your father that your activities are valuable TO HIM. That what you are doing (on the stages is teaching you how to interact with people, and you'll need to know how to do that well in college, and especially in the work place. If you landed a job with a top paying company, and had to give a presentation to the Board of Directors for a project worth millions of dollars, some acting training would be invaluable in making that presentation come off well).
It's not what you've got to sell... it's how you sell it.
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crystalwizard
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