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|  crystalwizard Forum Moderator

       Date Joined Nov 2006 Total Posts : 5004 | Posted 12/11/2007 7:24 PM (GMT -5) |   | | I need something that is two-hundred proof. I also need a fairly generic name. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  MichaelEhart Sage

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 2336 | Posted 12/11/2007 7:29 PM (GMT -5) |   | 95.6% ethanol and 4.4% water is an azeotrope, meaning that simple distillation can not concentrate the alcohol further, 191 proof spirits are essentially the maximum proof easily available for consumption.
Everclear is one. Buy my book!
The Servant of the Manthycore available Nov. 17th from DEP
Illustrated by Rachel Marks, with an introduction by Michael Moorcock
Read me in 2007!
"The View From the Shotglass Floor" Ray Gun Revival, Feb 2007
"Voice of the Spoiler" The Sword Review, June 2007
"Servant of the Manthycore" The Sword Review, July 2007
"Darkling I Listen; and for Many a Time" Fear and Trembling, coming soon!
"Weaving Spiders Come Not Here" The Sword Review, August 2007
"Six Zombies Doing That Mick Jagger Strut" Damned in Dixie, Summer 2007
"Nothing But Our Tears" The Sword Review, September 2007
"Night of Shadows, Night of Knives" Magic and Mechanica, Fall 2007
"The Scarlet Colored Beast" The Sword Review, October 2007
"The Stars by Law, Forbidden" Unparalleled Journeys II, November 2007
"Who Comes for the Mother's Fruit" Every Day Fiction, November 2007
"Stand, Stand, Shall They Cry" Flashing Swords, November 2007
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    |  Hermit Diavhrati Luminary

       Date Joined May 2007 Total Posts : 1729 | Posted 12/11/2007 9:29 PM (GMT -5) |   | moonshine is often equated to everclear.
Strangely enough, everclear is not consistent depending on state law. I was shocked in '89 to learn that Iowa allows nothing over 151 proof, and so their everclear was 151. Illinois everclear is 180 proof. I use an invention of distilled mushrooms called Marlbrew in much of my fiction. It is essentially 100-180 proof with either fermaldahide or psillocyben to augment it as an hallucingen as well as an alcoholic beverage. Pure grain ETOH can go under any name you wish to give it. Dwarven spirits are as likely distilled from fungus as from fruit and/or grain. Though fungus as we know it does not ferment appropriately due to its high water and low sugar content. Moonshine is usually pure grain whiskey distilled multiple times. As is everclear. Also, distillation processes vary depending on charcoal, salt, copper, and other factors in the distillation process. Dwarves might be likely to use wormwood in distilled liquor such that they would have ultra-high proof forms of absynthe, which would give hallucagenic benefits like highgrade absinthes from the mountainous European regions. Depending on whether they add the wormwood before or after distillation, it would give it more a kick and more hallucinative qualities. Also, the water matters. Certain kinds of tequilla are more devastating because they use fermaldahyde as well as water in the process, and fermaldahyde is an hallucinegen as well.
According to urban legand, Jeagermeister was mixed with hart-blood to make it more potent. It was flavored with anise and, depending on local tradition, may or may not have contained wormwood (the herb responsible for the mild hallucinagenic qualities of absinthe). One of the factors in some of these is the dissociative effect of the combinations of ETOH and hallucinagenic herbs; sometimes the mix could encourage the savagery necessary for 'berserker' rages, and the subsequent downside of memory loss with the benefit of projection of guilt on an 'otherness' that came over them during 'battle rages' enhanced by ennebriation.
Is that any help?
BTW: 'whiskey' is from the welsh/scot/celtic tradition for the word 'water' as is the word 'vodka'. That's where we get the term 'firewater'.
Literarily speaking: More prolific than sin!
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  |  Bill Ward Biblioholic

       Date Joined Jul 2006 Total Posts : 1717 | Posted 12/12/2007 1:28 AM (GMT -5) |   | | | |
 |  crystalwizard Forum Moderator

       Date Joined Nov 2006 Total Posts : 5004 | Posted 12/12/2007 1:43 AM (GMT -5) |   | | | |
 |  Anthony G Williams Greybeard

       Date Joined Apr 2007 Total Posts : 419 | Posted 12/12/2007 4:49 AM (GMT -5) |   | I must admit that in four decades of drinking lots of different types of alcohol, I've never heard of Everclear.
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     |  H.P. Lovesauce Necronomicondiment

       Date Joined Jul 2007 Total Posts : 585 | Posted 12/12/2007 4:41 PM (GMT -5) |   | Everclear is an American invention, borne of the same impulse that makes them put rocket engines on cars and guns on cargo planes, but is available in Canada where it is used to kill freshman engineering students.
If your dwarves are low-class, it might be "swish": water that's been soaked inside an already-used distilling barrel. | | Back to Top | | |
  |  MichaelEhart Sage

       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 2336 | Posted 12/12/2007 5:17 PM (GMT -5) |   | Evan Williams is an old friend of mine, but not quite so dear as my old buddy George Dickel.... but I am especially fond of Maker's Mark, when I can afford it. Buy my book!
The Servant of the Manthycore available Nov. 17th from DEP
Illustrated by Rachel Marks, with an introduction by Michael Moorcock
Read me in 2007!
"The View From the Shotglass Floor" Ray Gun Revival, Feb 2007
"Voice of the Spoiler" The Sword Review, June 2007
"Servant of the Manthycore" The Sword Review, July 2007
"Darkling I Listen; and for Many a Time" Fear and Trembling, coming soon!
"Weaving Spiders Come Not Here" The Sword Review, August 2007
"Six Zombies Doing That Mick Jagger Strut" Damned in Dixie, Summer 2007
"Nothing But Our Tears" The Sword Review, September 2007
"Night of Shadows, Night of Knives" Magic and Mechanica, Fall 2007
"The Scarlet Colored Beast" The Sword Review, October 2007
"The Stars by Law, Forbidden" Unparalleled Journeys II, November 2007
"Who Comes for the Mother's Fruit" Every Day Fiction, November 2007
"Stand, Stand, Shall They Cry" Flashing Swords, November 2007
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  |  Nathan Jerpe Acolyte

       Date Joined Nov 2007 Total Posts : 238 | Posted 12/12/2007 6:05 PM (GMT -5) |   | | | |
  |  Dragon Angel Lord Dragon

       Date Joined Sep 2004 Total Posts : 1066 | Posted 12/13/2007 11:20 AM (GMT -5) |   | | | |
    |  Hermit Diavhrati Luminary

       Date Joined May 2007 Total Posts : 1729 | Posted 12/13/2007 1:15 PM (GMT -5) |   | It was a twelve-hour marathon. I didn't do much chugging. Just drinking. It was hot, and I was working through the first case (clearing sandbags, which is how I slipped a disc). Then we went to a graduation party for a friend. Thankfully, it was outside . . . I ambled over quite often to the shadows behind an evergreen . . . wee wee wee . . .
I can't eat that much. I can drink a lot because I have a) the bladder retention of a four-year-old; b) I have 25 years of practice from varsity to Olympic level; c) genetic predisposition for tolerance [remarkably, without addiction]; d) I'm constantly thirsty.
Having said that, I would like to state that I no longer go on ridiculous binges and never recommend it for anyone who cares to live a normal life. And I strongly recommend against beer bongs! Also, I insist on either drinking at home or having a designated driver - not to be PC, but to be responsible. AND I honestly think the legal drinking age should be changed: 23 for women and 25 for men. This I base on a bit of research I've done on the phisiological harm alcohol can do and the fact that the human brain is not fully formed, physically, until those ages. Heavy drinking or binge drinking can seriously damage any brain, but it can seriously destroy the quality of life for anyone underage. [And, yes, this is an opinion greatly changed over time due to further education on the matter; I previously was of the opinion that 17 or 18 should be the legal drinking age because you can join the armed forces and die for your country at that age, so you may as well be able to drink. But then, I think induction age should be moved up . . .]
Nathan Jerpe said...
Hermit said... Three cases of beer one night (self-medicating for a herniated disc in my back - 4 June 1993). At 12 ounces a beer, and 24 beers a case, that's 864 fluid ounces of beer, or about six and three-quarter gallons. That comes out to fifty-four pounds of beer.
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