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Rob Mancebo
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| Posted 12/4/2007 9:53 PM (GMT -5) |   |
Firlefanz said...
When I listen to sad tales from friends, I have to consciously dissociate often enough. I haven't tried it through shields, though, which means I probably should look into working those. I know the conversation has shifted to other things, but I'd love to learn more about this. 
- Your imagination is they key. This takes time to cultivate so practice-practice-practice.
- imagine what you want then focus upon it happening. Be specific. If you are religious, pray for it (short of interfearing with another's free will.) If you are not, envision it. If you're shielding, make a time every day to set it up. Create in your mind what you want to create in reality.
- As for why it works? Well maybe you're actually creating a psychic barrier, or maybe you're just teaching your overly-sensitive self to 'shut-out' a lot of background noise. Whether or not you believe it's mental science or magic doesn't matter. Remember, all science was 'magic' at some point in time. Just a few decades ago accupuncture was written-off completely by 'Science'. Now it's 'proven medicine' and is paid for by HMOs.
- When it works you will grow accustomed to using it and will automatically protect yourself when trouble arises. It's like a martial art though, you have to train yourself to do it.
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Firlefanz
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Date Joined Mar 2007
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| Posted 12/5/2007 3:29 AM (GMT -5) | | Laura and Rob, thank you both!
Laura, your list helps a lot. I believe I'm moving into Empath territory, but much of what you say about HSP sounds very familiar.
I'm not shy, and more extroverted, but I'm still aware of others' emotions (in fact, I've been practicing sensing them in the therapist training I'm doing, in this case sensing, and then backing off). I do prefer a quiet environment, too, but social interaction doesn't leave me exhausted most of the time. I don't seek it out all the time, but with the right people, it's great. With others, I do feel totally drained, and I've been told once that I had lots and lots of energy being sucked off me. A friend took care of that then, and told me to shield. I've been working on shielding on and off since then, but I guess there's still much ahead to learn and train.
I'm still hurting from being / feeling rejected as child, although as part of the therapist training, I'm addressing that and making progress - it's very liberating. I have also often tossed and turned through a night after emotional situations (or even movies!), but that's getting better. Your words about emotions messing with the stomach have made me think. Emotions can do that to me, while food normally doesn't.
About two years ago, I discovered I can transfer energy with my hands. It's not clear and certain healing just yet, but I'm getting it under better control. I'm also learning not to use my own energy for this, but to summon it, so it doesn't leave me drained. Heh. My hands seem to glow when I just write about it. I firmly believe I've been a healer before, and that I am one now. I just have to learn how to do it again.
Rob, I learned about shielding at about the same time as about my hands. Visualizing something is fairly easy for me, fortunately. I've developed my own ritual for a personal shield, but haven't made it a firm part of daily life just yet. Sometimes I get out of the habit for a long time - guess I need to change that. I like your comparison to martial arts, and how training is necessary. I agree very much.
Thanks for this topic! It's giving me much to think about, and much to do!
- Call me Firle.
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Laura Stamps
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| Posted 12/5/2007 7:39 AM (GMT -5) | |
Firlefanz said...
Laura, your list helps a lot. I believe I'm moving into Empath territory, but much of what you say about HSP sounds very familiar.
I always suggest that people who think they might be a HSP or an Empath google those terms. There is a lot of literature on the web about it. Don't be surprised if you cry tears of relief once you discover which you are!
If you feel there are certain people who drain you, then you should also google the term psychic vampire. There are several kinds of psi-vamps, and they each drain you with different methods. It is good to be aware of these, so you can put up an adequate defense.
Blood Vampires also exist, but only feed off the energy in human blood. No problem recognizing one of those, right? 
Much love to you in your quest and many magickal blessings!!
Laura Stamps Magickal Urban Fantasy Novelist
The Witches of Dixie: Book One of the Witchery Series
(ISBN: 978-0-9798413-0-9, 2007, Trytium Publishing, 245 pages)
Available at Amazon.com, BarnesandNoble.com, your local bookstore
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Rob Mancebo
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| Posted 12/8/2007 1:41 PM (GMT -5) | |
Keralen said...
I did meet a psychic vampire once, though. I swear, the most evil woman I ever met. We were on an overnight train in France. The booking office had messed up and put my husband into a different sleeping compartment. I was in the middle (I'm convinced now) of a miscarriage, and really really needy, so he sneaked in after lights-out to just hold me. The woman in the bunk above me found out and tried to have us thrown off the train. This was almost 25 years ago and the memory is still horrible. I had nightmares for months. However, I later wrote her into a novel as a villain / Source of Ultimate Evil, which helped a lot. 
- Ah, shades of Cruella DeVille! 
- There are some people who are so acustomed to being in a negative environment that they just stir up emotional muck wherever they go. I know some that are very fearful if they're not bashing someone or something. It's like they are so afraid of just 'being', of just having an opinion or a question, they can't stand it. If you catch them off guard they're very uncertain and confused but point them at a person or issue and they rev up like Rush Lindbaugh after donuts and coffee.
- Those folks may not be psychic vampires, but they're certainly emotional vampires. They want to put you into an emotional state that supports theirs. That makes them feel 'right'. If you argue with them, it puts them into a position of power and a combative state, and that makes them feel 'right' too.
- To shake your head and say, 'I feel sorry for you', and leave the area leaves them sucking air like a fish out of water. Then they'll go off to someone else and explode about what an @$$#@!@ you are and suck the other person into their outrage to put that person into a supportive emotional state. They wrap themselves in a never-ending drama cycle.
- If you realize you're associated with a psychic vampire, someone who just habitually makes you tired by being in their presence, cross your arms over your chest. This blocks the heart chakra to cut down what they can drain off you.
- If you want to be more active in your defense, imagine a mirror between you and them to reflece everything they toss your way back at them. Pretty quickly, they'll accuse you of not listening and go talk to someone else they can feed off of.
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Keralen
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| Posted 12/10/2007 9:08 AM (GMT -5) | | | I'm sure it was my weakness that she was feeding on, as you say. The worst thing is, I found out later, she was a doctor! | | Back to Top | | |
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Laura Stamps
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Date Joined Jun 2007
Total Posts : 134
| Posted 12/10/2007 9:26 AM (GMT -5) | |
Rob Mancebo said...
-- If you realize you're associated with a psychic vampire, someone who just habitually makes you tired by being in their presence, cross your arms over your chest. This blocks the heart chakra to cut down what they can drain off you.
Thanks, Rob, that's a good one. I have never heard of that before, but I know it will work.
I do two things above and beyond the circle of protection I cast around myself every morning and the protective talismans I wear every day.
1.) I mentally realize I am in the presence of a vamp and step back mentally and then leave the vamp's presence physically.
2.) If I can't physically leave the presence of the vamp and have to endure the fit/words the vamp is spewing out to stir up my energy and drain it, I use a special vamp mantra I have invented that works great. I begin to chant "Love, Love Love..." over and over in my mind. It not only strengthens the circle of protection I cast around myself every day from heart chakra energy but also blocks out what the vamp is saying. That keeps those draining words from sinking into me and feeding off me. I do it for as long as the fit lasts, and emerge from it full of energy and feeling great, because I lost nothing. Works every time! Although as you said, it irritates the daylights out of the vamp (grin). But I just smile sweetly and have plenty of energy to go on with my day.
Laura Stamps Magickal Urban Fantasy Novelist
The Witches of Dixie: Book One of the Witchery Series
(ISBN: 978-0-9798413-0-9, 2007, Trytium Publishing, 245 pages)
Available at Amazon.com, BarnesandNoble.com, your local bookstore
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