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   Posted 8/11/2007 3:50 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Xsilver said...

I read the first chapter of your book (Crystalwizard): Wizard's Bane, It is really fun, I think this would make a good motion picture as well. I could tottally get the feel for it.


:) thanks for the compliment. I'd love to see the book turned into a movie. I couldn't fund it though and I wouldn't want to put creative control into someone else's hands. Maybe some day.
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   Posted 8/11/2007 12:24 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
THANK YOU! There is a bit less now, but the point posting it here, and elswhere was to get feedback to validate the work. is it something worth going in to production with? Well, now it is clear it was worth enough to be used by someone else.

I read the first chapter of your book (Crystalwizard): Wizard's Bane, It is really fun, I think this would make a good motion picture as well. I could tottally get the feel for it.


If I just had the time.

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   Posted 8/10/2007 9:38 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
And just to echo Barb's statement of removing your work from public places, you have far too much of it posted in this thread. Small excerpts aren't very useful to thieves, but you have large chunks in the posts in this thread.


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   Posted 8/10/2007 9:17 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

As Crystalwizard said on the Megalith thread, posting your work on a public forum makes it available to thieves.  When I suggested a synopsis/treatment, I meant it as a marketing tool to be sent privately to investors, agents etc. - not to be posted.

The more places you post your work, the more chances you take.  A public forum is just that.  Public.  Anyone can "walk in" and read the posts as an anonymous guest, and many people think that anything they see on the Internet is free for the taking. mad

I'm sorry your idea was stolen, but since your thief made a different story from it and isn't trying to sell your script as his/her own, just remove your work from as many public forums as you can and go ahead with your plans.

 

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   Posted 8/10/2007 7:13 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well, here was before the synopsis, but i had to take it off, as someone had already made a different story out of it, and posted it at a some marketing network. wild. It is hard to believe, that my writing could be any good, why would somebody do that.


If I just had the time.

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   Posted 7/28/2007 2:48 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Hi, Xsilver.  I am absolutely not an expert on film writing or selling, but if your purpose right now is to sell your idea to investors, you might want to show them a treatment or some other short form to grab their interest before presenting them with the complete script.

Here's a site with some good information.

http://www.scripthollywood.com/id28.html    

Best of luck!
 
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   Posted 7/27/2007 6:22 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey. As you have noticed my first tongue is not English, and I have written this alone. I also wouldn't say I am a writer. I have written the peace for myself, so I can direct it. But first I must prove to my investors, if this is any good, or interesting at all.

***

I think your script is wonderfully imaginative! It's good. It's interesting.

Good luck with finding some financing for it and etc! ;-)


"Art is the celebration of the ego's destruction."

Daniel

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   Posted 7/27/2007 6:22 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey. As you have noticed my first tongue is not English, and I have written this alone. I also wouldn't say I am a writer. I have written the peace for myself, so I can direct it. But first I must prove to my investors, if this is any good, or interesting at all. I understand what I want in the film, but yes it is unclear at places, specially when you only read a segment. I have most of the answers, just that it is a major effort for me to describe everything here. Thank you again, and Rob thanks a lot, You have opened my eyes to a lot of things.

___________________

As you ask of the powers of the ring:
EXT. FARM MEADOW – DAY

Cuillaume helps Quenby with different tasks, cuts grass with scythe, they carry it together in to the cart. In the magnificent garden Cuillaume teaches her the game with the rocks. She tries playing it, he shows her again.

HANDS (MAC CUILLAUME)
An interesting ring you have?

LILY (QUENBY)
Haven’t you seen the Ring of the
Viperking before?

She sounds like as if it isn’t even real, as if they are just playing, and she is just making it all up.

HANDS (MAC CUILLAUME)
What kind of a ring is that?

LILY (QUENBY)
A thing of anotherworld, it wouldn’t
work here, a work of mortals and
gods. And with friends I have made a
pile of other things,
my dowry has everything.

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3. By the way I had no idea, that the tongue was also split in the Lord of the Rings - they must have got it from me :) or were just inspired.

4. I agree with your comments, am a bit humiliated, but I think with a little brushing it could become presentable. What do you think? Also I think the film language is more universal in a way.


If I just had the time.

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   Posted 7/25/2007 2:05 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks, Rob!


"Art is the celebration of the ego's destruction."

Daniel

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   Posted 7/25/2007 1:52 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

<I would really care for some feedback. > 

Xsilver,
-  Well I had major trouble following this very imaginative piece.  There's no description of people and no sense of what's actually going on.  I think YOU'VE got a very colorful and interesting idea of a dream-like arena of fantasy, but you're only passing on pieces to the reader.  This bogs us down in trying to fill in all the blanks while following the storyline. 

I will edit a section for you into more understandable prose.   I 've never written a screen play, although I've edited one, so I have no idea of proper format.  I'm only looking to clear up clarity and logic here: 

 

 

As a bird gliding in the air, the ancient Tall City Stronghold, sand dunes, bog pools, megalithic stone patterns, and thatch roofed farms below are moving by. (replace 'are moving' with 'moves'.)  Shortly the landscape starts to be damaged as if someone has ridden (replace 'ridden' with 'crashed' or some other words that evokes the damage in the mind of the reader.)  through it with a boat and left behind great trenches, dikes, and ditches. At a moment when something like a tail of a dragon is demolishing a small hill with huts and a wooden stronghold, then a blow of fire at the village.

(At a moment when something like a tail of a dragon is demolishing a small hill with huts and a wooden stronghold, then a blow of fire at the village. -  As a __________(You don't say what this is) is demolishing a small hill with huts and a wooden stronghold, a blast of fire engulfs the village.) 

Pulling back revels(reveals) this reflection coming from a round stone that is hanging on a dirty chest.  (Okay, this is a point of confusion.  Is what you've described a hint of something in the future or is it, as described, a 'reflection' of something that's happening.  What may be obvious in a visual media isn't as obvious when reading.)

 

 


It is MAC CUILLAUME, a ten year old boy. He plays with a winged lizard-like frog tadpole (winged lizard-like frog tadpole is just too many descriptive names.  Each one has a different form behind it and none of them have an ox body as later described.  Trim the names and add to the following description.)  who’s(whose) body is like an ox, fore and hind legs like frog’s and the tail like a chain of a long snake, (snakes don't have chains.  You might want to use a different descriptor.) letting it climb and wiggle on him. There is something in his hand that the frog wants and he’s trying to keep away from him. Sun rise up in the hills of breath taking landscape. (The sun rises above hills of breathtaking landscape)  Light peaceful rustic string and fife MUSIC (Light, peaceful, rustic string and fife MUSIC )in harmony with the TWITTERING birds fills the air.
...

EXT. TALL CITY, CENTER OF THE CITY MARKET - DAY

The King of Aists is most angrily running around town. Orders people to be punished for no reason. Whoever gets on his way, becomes a subject of his rage. (Insert his dialogue here.) 

KING ESTMUND
(yelling over town)
My son’s name is Cuillaume, and he will
be great king, of the Aists. Be it
Gwendamort himself, no-one is going
to take my son from me! 

EXT. GOLDSPINNERS FOREST – DAY

Cuillaume kicks and flutters, rambles. Quenby tries to wake Cuillaume again, then pulls him on his shoulder, and carries him towards the bridge. 

(ouch!  You've dropped us into a scene with no description or intro.  Flutters indicates blowing in the wind (unless he's a flying creature) rambles can indicate either speech or a meandering direction of travel. 


(Revised)-Stretched out upon the sward, Cuillaume twitches and jerks convulsively.  He mutters tormentedly., His servent, Quenby, tries to wake Cuillaume (remove 'again' since we haven't seen anything before this.)  , then pulls him onto his shoulder, and carries him towards the bridge. 

EXT. BATTLEFIELD – DAY

(revised)-The warriors have got the giant net trap over the tremendous frog creature (doesn't this monster have a name we can use?); some are now on his back pulling the ropes tight while the hundred fighters upon the ground start to pull the ropes.

IAN
(to Tall)
Fire-Eater, get a way(away)! He’s going down.

TALL
Get him now! Ian! ...Branden!

19 The mighty army (your described 100 men is hardly a mighty army.  You can seat 100 men in an average living room.)   pulls it down, it falls, flipping its tail and blowing, bellowing fire. It is still, motionless. The fighters storm it. (revised)- It suddenly lashes out and whirls in the dry sand like a croc killing its pray(prey), crashing (crushing)many, rending others in a blinding wave of stinging sand and slashing teeth. 

 

The lizard slows amid the remains of it's(its) captors; large rocks are falling at him as the men at the catapults have had time to reload. It catches one of the rocks with a loop of its tail, and throws it back.

It smothers at Tall; he can hardly see where the beast is, fighting him with a sword. (?  I couldn't understand this one but I'll give it a try:  Choking, with dust and smoke from the monster's fiery breath in his eyes, Tall flails blindly about with his sword.

 


(Revised) The smoke and dust is clearing. Tall is frantically lashing with his sword right in front of the beast’s jaws. The monster throws out its tongue, hitting his feet so he falls on his knees. Tall desperately rams the sword through its tongue and in to(into) the ground. In pain the Frog pulls its tongue back, ripping its tip in two. It bellows in rage and pain. The Frog lashes out with its sharp tail before Tall has time to rise.  The warrior's head rolls in the sand. Tall's body is still on its knees, it gropes blindly about until it finds the head and puts it back on.  Tall stands up, bloody sword in his right hand, holding his head with his left.  He fights the beast for a long moment then throws the sward(sword) into its open mouth.  His head drops and his body collapses. The Frog spits the weapon out in a victorious bellowing of fire. 

 

 

Good luck with your screen play.


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   Posted 7/25/2007 12:54 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes, I know....


"Art is the celebration of the ego's destruction."

Daniel

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   Posted 7/25/2007 9:07 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Daniel said...
Interesting.

A movie-script?

One potential source of confusion I noted was: the action sections, the non-dialogue sections, are written in present tense and are sort of "hip" and fast-paced whereas the dialogue itself reads more like Elizabethan blank-verse.

I think that could confuse some people, I'll admit to being a bit confused....


Screenplay narrative convention is present tense, actually. Takes some getting used to for prose readers.


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The Tales of Doran Coyle

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   Posted 7/25/2007 4:56 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes it is a movie script, that's why in present tense. Here's another segment, I am glad you liked it.

EXT. GOLDSPINNERS FOREST HAYFIELD – DAY

Evening is almost at hand. The three girls are raking hay at the meadow. Quenby has moved little ways from the others. Suddenly a caw. The raven is back and craws from the top of the haycock. The frightened girl hastens carefully to receive the message.

RAVEN
(CROAKING, text as SUBTITLES)
It is all done. Wait nine more days,
and he will come to get you on
the day of the hunt.

QUENBY
(CROAKING, text as SUBTITLES)
Black-raven-white-bird.
Now I know they call you that
for a reason.

Raven is gone. Suddenly Hellen and Fridiswid surprise her from behind.

HELLEN
Who are you talking to there. Looks like
you are becoming a bird. I have seen that happen a few times.

QUENBY
I would rather be a bird then one
like you.

EDITED


If I just had the time.

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   Posted 7/24/2007 3:35 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Interesting.

A movie-script?

One potential source of confusion I noted was: the action sections, the non-dialogue sections, are written in present tense and are sort of "hip" and fast-paced whereas the dialogue itself reads more like Elizabethan blank-verse.

I think that could confuse some people, I'll admit to being a bit confused....

Thanks for sharing this.


"Art is the celebration of the ego's destruction."

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   Posted 7/24/2007 5:45 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I would really care for some feedback.


EDITED

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

EXT. GOLDSPINNERS FOREST – DAY

Cuillaume kicks and flutters, rambles. Quenby tries to wake Cuillaume again, then pulls him on his shoulder, and carries him towards the bridge.

EXT. BATTLEFIELD – DAY

The warriors have got the net trap over the Frog; some are now on his back pulling the ropes tight. The hundred fighters in the distance start to pull the ropes.

IAN
(to Tall)
Fire-Eater, get a way! He’s going
Down.

TALL
Get him now! Ian! ...Branden!

The mighty army pulls it down, it falls, flipping its tail and blowing, bellowing fire. It is still, motionless. The fighters storm it. As a lightening it is back in the fight, it spins fast in the dry sand as a croc killing its pray, crashing many, a terrible sand storm in the whirlwind, it seems like every fighting-cock has died.

EDITED


If I just had the time.

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