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Jeff Stehman
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   Posted 3/23/2007 10:17 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
tchernabyelo said...
Why do you think I have a shelf of Renaissance and late-medieval reference books? Shipbuilding, Travel, Science and Technology, Trade, Warfare, Economics, Art...

City-states, guilds, factions, the Church, outside superpowers, and a whole lot of "regime changes."


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   Posted 3/23/2007 5:42 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It certainly would.
 
Why do you think I have a shelf of Renaissance and late-medieval reference books?   Shipbuilding, Travel, Science and Technology, Trade, Warfare, Economics, Art... 
 
:-)  
 
(BTW - mistype in my original post - it's Fernand Braudel, not Fernand Braude.   And yes, he's French, but all his important works - and there are many of them - have been well translated.   Not light reading, but fantastically useful stuff all over the place).  


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   Posted 3/23/2007 1:13 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well, duh, why do you think I asked? :-)

BTW, I think it (or a fantasy version of it) would make a great setting for a wide variety of stories.


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   Posted 3/22/2007 11:52 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Let me get this right...you make a request for information about Italy's Machiavellian era and in less than 24 hours (heck, in fifteen minutes) you get responses that guide you to Masters-level work you can download for free by people who obviously understand the importance of the books they recommend.

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Jeff Stehman
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   Posted 3/22/2007 10:09 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you.


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   Posted 3/22/2007 6:41 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Burckhardt's book (the first of those linked) is still pretty much regarded as the seminal work on the subject (I have a hardback copy from, I think, the 30s).


Also, a more general view, Fernand Braude's two-volume "The Mediterranean in the Age of Philip II" is a fantastic sourcebook.


Poke Wikipedia as well - take a look at the Medici, Gonzaga, d'Este, Borgia and Sforza families, stuff on Federigo da Montefeltro of Urbino, the cities of Siena, Lucca, Padua, Florence, Lucca, Pisa, Mantua and of course Venice and Rome; check out Savonarola and the various Popes of the time; Emperor Charles V; Francois II (IIRC)... oh, lots of stuff.


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   Posted 3/21/2007 6:13 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Gutenberg project titles, download for free:

The Civilisation of the Renaissance in Italy http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2074

And the quite fun The Life of Cesare Borgia by Raphael Sabatini http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/3467


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   Posted 3/21/2007 5:57 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
In his translation of The Prince, George Bull recommends Volume I of the New Cambridge Modern History (The Renaissance 1493-1520) for those interested in historical background on Italy during Machiavelli's time. Well, I'm interested. Problem is, it's six hours to the nearest library that has a copy, and it can't be checked out. It's also ~50 years old, which may or may not be an issue.

Can anyone recommend a good history that covers this time and place in detail?


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