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   Posted 2/14/2007 2:15 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
TSR will publish reprints, but only if the work is far above normal quality, AND the story is marked as a reprint.

The only contest which really adds to your CV is Writers of the Future. Many authors published there do get picked up by Asimov's/Analog/F&SF/ROF, in my opinion.


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   Posted 2/15/2007 10:20 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Going back to the original question for a moment, my novels were 95,000 and 93,000 words, respectively. So far, nobody has complained :-)
 
Every publisher's submission guidelines should specify the minimum and maximum word count they'll look at from a new author.

As for posting online and the rights issues, some publishers don't care. Others do. My thinking is, why risk cutting off even some of your potential markets? And deleting something from a public web site isn't the answer, because there are plenty of places where that will still be cached...


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   Posted 5/19/2007 10:43 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
All I can say is, if I wanted to publish a novel, I wouldn't take a chance on someone thinking it's already been published. I used a private writing group to tweak my first novel. We met on boards like this and formed our own group. We took turns sending work to every member of the group (usually a chapter at a time). The other members would send back their suggested corrections and we would accept/reject it.

This worked for us and no one could say anything was published, it was all done by email.

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   Posted 5/25/2007 11:39 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
crystalwizard said...
I would suggest you post in the
SFReader Forums > Writing > On Writing

forum.

You have to expect a long wait from most publishers and Oscar, do yourself a favor, get a good literary agent. do NOT send your manuscript out. Get a good, well recomended literary agent, and work with them.

You're new to this so there are a lot of pitfalls you can avoid. You do need to learn patience though, you'll need it.

Read through the boards here. The people here are experienced in this industry. LISTEN to them, they've been where you are headed and have learned a lot of things the hard way.

I was under the impression that agents avoid newbies. But, I tend to have a great many bits of misinformation that melt to mist when held up to the light of reality :-)
. What's the best source, in your opinion of course, for a newbie to find a reputable agent for fantasy fiction? At what point of writing should one find said agent? Is it better to pitch the book or the series to the agent? I feel that I'm a long way from the agent search, but I am curious as to the process.
(Feel free to PM me with an agent reference. Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge.)


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crystalwizard
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   Posted 5/26/2007 6:34 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bitter Hermit said...

I was under the impression that agents avoid newbies.


If they all did that, there'd be very few agents who could pay their bills. There are only so many authors who have established track records AND who don't have an agent they prefer to work with.
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Hermit
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   Posted 6/4/2007 11:53 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you, Crystalwizard. I have a (nother) mission now.


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Michael
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   Posted 6/4/2007 7:03 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm sorry, but this is really confusing.  I understood that granting "non-exclusive" rights means you retain the right to publish the work again ... period.  That's what all the e-zines that buy these rights say, anyway.
 
On the other hand, I understand that there are some publications that only want new work, which is different.  If they say they accept reprints, then what's the problem?

Oh, and I got the same reply from an agent once, and my actual word count is 98,000 words - just shy of 100k, which would put the estimated count right there.  Go figure.


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   Posted 6/4/2007 7:57 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It's not a problem so much as a complication. As a writer, your best bet is to include information for the previous publication - if not consent from previous publisher(s) - making it totally clear that you own the copyright and can unequivically grant them permission to reprint the story. Common courtesy, if not law, demands that we publishers credit the original publisher(s) for having the good sense to publish what we deem worthy of publication.
The complication in question is more about legality and litigation than anything. Too often, writers don't realize what rights they've sold or given away - or they are mistaken because of verbal acrobatics in the contracts. This is really the biggest reason we use release forms: to clearly state what rights we are asking and what rights the author retains (now I have to go check our form to either verify or correct this). While there are a few dishonest ones out there, I like to think that most of us small press publishers are just honest schmucks trying to do our part. Which is to say that we're just folks and can sometimes get caught up in all the regular pitfalls such as trying to use fancy legal jargon to (accidentally, I hope) obfuscate the matter at hand.
Ease the publisher's mind about that, and the publisher loses one critical category on which to reject the work. For some of us, it simply is a matter of convenience and peace of mind. We don't have the time or other resources to dick around with copyright claims, so we use it as a default rejection to narrow down the slush. Got nothing to do with the work, per se, or with the author. Has everything to do with efficiency and security.
 
That's the way it is. Deal with it. (As a writer, I feel a compulsory need to apologize; consider this my apology idea )


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Michael
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   Posted 6/4/2007 10:19 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hmm ... that actually sounds like good advice, Bitter Hermit.  Thanks!


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Alan of The Word
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   Posted 6/18/2007 7:42 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
With regard to the word count, don't try to make the count fit a particular publisher. Write a good book that you're happy with, that is the best book you can write. Then, regardless of word count, keep shopping it around until you find a publisher that will publish that length of book.

And ideally, get an agent. Unsolicited manuscripts (of any length) are really hard to place.


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