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   Posted 6/15/2006 5:55 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
A guy needs a million dollars [approzimately the price of two Cessna tu206 planes] in a hurry. He has the funds but is in a 3rd world African country -- Mali. Even if the bank had enough cash in foriegn currency on hand (say Euros or Francs) to acctualy give in a wire transfer situation a million dollars weighs, like 61lbs probably more in Euros.
 
Does anyone know if some sort of alternate currency form exists to conduct the transaction. I'm think of perhaps a bond, bearer's note, or something that could be used almost just like cash.
 
I've googled it and I'm running into problems in that I'm getting obscure PDF links to inter-goverment memos (Treasury, IRS, etc) for all my hits. I can't make any sense out of the hits.
 
Me very slow, me need it explained in small words please. Help.


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   Posted 6/15/2006 6:35 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Pay-off in gems, or tech?


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   Posted 6/15/2006 6:39 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Not sure I quite understand the problem. Why would 61 pounds be a big deal? Two suitcases, filled with thirty pounds apiece, could carry the load.

Now, whether the Mali bank has that much cash on hand ... that's a different situation.
Does it have to be cash?
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   Posted 6/15/2006 7:09 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

One man is wounded and stuck in a remote and extremely isolated location. There is a river nearby, the clock is running down. According to my CIA World Fact book the river (the Komoe in Burkina Faso) could support a seaplane.

The rescue is coming from a few hundred miles away (Bamako the capital of Mali which is one of the bottom 5 poorest countires in the world), helicopter not an option. Only this is an unexpected twist so no one in the support group had planned on a seaplane contingency.

Their under the gun and need to be bold. Solution. As good American's they throw money at the problem. The Niger river (3rd largest in Africa) runs through Bamako. It would be acceptable that a person would have a seaplane.

Only this isn't Tampa or Seattle or something, the idea that they could just walk into a dealer and fly away in fifteen minutes seems too much deuxma machina (excuse my frantic spelling). So I want them to make a seaplane owner an offer they can't resfuse. Twice the value of the plane (about 450k) in cash for the ignition keys.

I also don't want to take what might be a complicated financial transfer in a counrty like Mali and make it seem so easy readers go "oh, BS!"

Because of the plot parameters a tech trade is out. Diamonds are rife in the area as Liberia floods the region with blackmarket stones to get around UN sanctions -- as does Sierria Leone. But if the average person was offer a cool mil in stones would they be comfortable enough as a gemologist to know the rocks weren't cubic zirconium?

Maybe they should just steal the plane. Streamlines everything I guess.



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   Posted 6/15/2006 8:35 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I was thinking steal the plane, or "borrow" it while leaving behind a promisary note of some kind. Also, (I'm guessing this is for a Bolan novel) would the bad guys maybe have a seaplane for some reason? Maybe Mack or whomever could just shoot their way to the plane and take off in it.
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   Posted 6/16/2006 4:46 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
While huge cash transfers are prominent in the drug trade, no one else need use them if they don't mind the electronic trail left by virtual money. Without going into details, it is probable cash could be found, a million dollars is not that much even in the third world. They are not poor because no one has money, they are poor because all the money is concentrated in very few hands.
In other words, American Express works in these situations. Plane oweners in the third world usually make their incomes, or part of them, chartering their planes. They will be set up to use plastic. It worked for Jack Ryan in Columbia in _Clear and Present Danger_.
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   Posted 6/16/2006 7:47 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
erazmus said...
While huge cash transfers are prominent in the drug trade, no one else need use them if they don't mind the electronic trail left by virtual money. Without going into details, it is probable cash could be found, a million dollars is not that much even in the third world. They are not poor because no one has money, they are poor because all the money is concentrated in very few hands.
In other words, American Express works in these situations. Plane oweners in the third world usually make their incomes, or part of them, chartering their planes. They will be set up to use plastic. It worked for Jack Ryan in Columbia in _Clear and Present Danger_.


Good point.

On the other hand, stealing the plane makes even more action sequences, right? lol

Even better - the pilot tries to screw him out of his money. Suspense and action. He goes through the money hoops and still needs to steal the plane!




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   Posted 6/16/2006 12:20 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah, I'm with Paul--- buy it (wire transfer would work for nearly everyone, or as Mike says Amex (don't leave Mali without it!) and then have to steal it anyway, cause some drug or gem or gunrunner baddies make a bigger offer after the fact. Then you get even more baddies to wax.


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   Posted 6/16/2006 12:22 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

I like you guys.

Writers are problem solvers.

Here's how I decided to solve this problem. I didn't understand seaplanes very well so I was just going to have them buy their way out of trouble by purchasing a seaplane.

Apperantly pontoons can come in kits. I already had a plane they were using for support in the operation. Instead of trying to find a seaplane for sale (charter wouldn't work because they're going into hot LZ and know it so they couldn't let some West African puddle jumper walk into a ambush, plus op-sec)) all they need to do is have enough money for a conversion kit and a extra for baksheesh to get the mechanics to do it NOW.

This was a really minor bridge scene to get to the finally climax -- I just didn't want to seem like a chump writing about bank transfers and bulk money. Like in Miami Vice when a million dollars comes in a 8" by 10" briefcase or something.

Good ideas all around. If anyone would like their name used for somebody Bolan kills just let me know turn


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   Posted 6/16/2006 12:50 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Nathan,
You can always have people kill me in fiction. I love being killed in a book and it would be an honor to have Bolan do the honors.
Mike


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   Posted 6/16/2006 1:53 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Death-by-Bolan!!! Consider me a corpse-to-be!


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   Posted 6/16/2006 1:53 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Just out of curiousity, and possibly for my own future reference: Why wouldn't a money order work in this situation?

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   Posted 6/16/2006 2:25 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

It would work. I avoid using it for a couple of reasons, some more sound than others.

In the original thought process we were talking about a nealy a million dollars. A money order for a million dollars? Okay, Steve Forbes sends Donald Trump a money order for a million dollars they have a real estate transaction and Donald's bank accepts Steve's money order.

Is a grease monkey or shady pilot in a 3rd world country going to walk into a bank in a repressive regime and turn that over with no problem? Maybe, but it feels wrong somehow to me. Also this was a bribe designed to get the person to circumvent normal procedures and simply hand over the keys to a plane, no questions ask. For emotional impact on this suspiscious businessman a pile of cash shoved in his face seemed to have a little more oomph.

Also this operation is black. A system of money tracking, identification requirments and bank records now leaves a money trail that could point to where a plane used in a shootout within the borders of a soverign nation came from. How did the guy picking up the wire transfer prove himself to bank clerks? They wont just take his word for it. Did he show a passport or other photo ID? Are copies made in transactions over a certain amount which would show the picture? Ect, ect. Then the money order would have to be cashed by the person it was given to. A paper trail linking plane to owner, owner to buyer, buyer to illegal operation, operator to a photo ID involved in an unusual business transaction. A complicated 'black' financial network would have to be put in place.

Now it is simply a matter of bribing a local aircraft mechanic to perform a perfectly legal conversion on a plane already 'clean' for operational purposes: immediately. A cashier check or money order from the state bank to cover the cost plus generous bundle of cash to get them to do it right now seems a lot less fraught with potential anti-money laundering procedures than walking into a bank in a crap-hole country in Africa and walking out with 60+ lbs of cash.

So, I think, a money order could work, but not for black ops, because of the clear paper trail.


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   Posted 6/16/2006 2:48 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Oh, Bribe money! Why didn't you say so?
If they are bribing someone to let them _steal_ the plane, in Mali, that won't take anything like a million dollars, unless the person they're bribing owns the plane. If he does then the cost of a new plane (not a brand new plane, but an upgrade replacement for what he was flying) plus a few thousand for his trouble would probably do it. There is an art to offering bribes of this sort. Too much is almost as bad as too little.
I can't wait to read this one.
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   Posted 6/16/2006 3:04 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The plane I picked before I researched the pontoon kits was a Cessna tu206 Airstation as it seemed to be the Toyota sedan of planes.
 
A new Cessna is 448k. One "loaded" is much closer to 500k. I figured they were under the gun so much (Bolan lying dead in a jungle clearing by a river and all) that they wouldn't try to finesse the transaction -- they were just going to throw an overwhelming amount of cash (I figured a million as it happens to be the price of 2 new Cessenas) at the first guy with a seaplane they could run down in the capital city.
 
The whole point was that this turn of events was happening in a matter of minutes and coming from complete surprise, the plot twist is a jolting reversal at the very end (I like to think so anyway<g>). They've got to do everything in under an almost unrealistic time table in a monsoon. Being a good guy the pilot would try to buy the plane. If the owner balked he would take it at gunpoint. No time to go "shopping."
 
I'm calling this one "Body Count," btw, lol (something I had joked about with Steve G some months ago) I know it seems like I'm giving away the suprise to a book that's going to be published but the plot synopsis on the back usual does that anyway. The suspense is in the *how* in these books, not the *if* and I'm pretty proud of my how in this case, lol.
 
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   Posted 6/16/2006 4:03 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Oh man, I would love to have Bolan gun me down. I'll be a gun runner, drug dealer, mobster, whatever it takes!
Nathan, if you can pull it off, the name is Ty Johnston. If not, no hard feelings.
I'm already planning to buy all the Executioner books you write anyway. And it's been a good while since I've looked in on Mack to see what he's been up to.
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   Posted 6/16/2006 4:05 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes Nathan, reply forthcoming.
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