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   Posted 9/18/2007 3:51 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jeff Stehman said...

You're just jealous because you can't get away with.

If you got it: flaunt it.


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   Posted 9/18/2007 3:57 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The thing that had a lot of folks concerned was the possible violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.


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   Posted 9/18/2007 3:59 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What's up with this report saying:
"Iraq’s Interior Ministry said 11 people were killed when Blackwater contractors opened fire at random after mortar rounds landed near the convoy." ????

The other (AP) news story (linked) stated a "20 minute fire fight". What did they do? Recieve mortar fire with a diplomat inside, stop, then sit spray the neighborhood with line-of-sight weapons against indirect fire (mortars).

Seems more likely a complex ambush was initiated by mortar fire followed by machine guns. 11 people killed in crossfire? Okay. How many bodies were left after their brothers took the klashnikov's out of their hands so they'd be called "civilians"?

I wonder if this is more information from the 20-year old juice vendor the thread was mocking.

Talk about fog of war. The story didn't even make sense.


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   Posted 9/18/2007 4:01 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah, the Bushies having been setting up expectations for the ouster of Maliki for a few weeks now, partly to shift blame, and partly as a concession to reality on the ground, which is a welcome change. That they are once again pressing for Allawi means they have pretty much given up on installing anyone remotely ethical or decent, and have decided that if there is going to be a homocidal petit-Hitler in charge of Iraq, he might as well be our homocidal petit-Hitler.


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   Posted 9/18/2007 4:03 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dave Panchyk said...
The thing that had a lot of folks concerned was the possible violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

Dave didn't you see X-Files The Movie, arent you up on your conspiracy theories ;-) ?
Under Fema juristiction it's a different ballgame. Besides they were private citizens providing deputized security in a diaster zone. Not troops.
Technicalities blah-blah-blah.
Doesn't change the were "the hammer" mentality though.


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   Posted 9/18/2007 4:07 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I understand the reason why they were brought in, all paranoia aside. The LNG were mostly deployed in Iraq, and so they needed someone to take their place. Not the best decision, but in this case I think it was stupidity and greed rather than malice that lead to the decision.


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   Posted 9/18/2007 4:10 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
MichaelEhart said...
Yeah, the Bushies having been setting up expectations for the ouster of Maliki for a few weeks now, partly to shift blame, and partly as a concession to reality on the ground, which is a welcome change. That they are once again pressing for Allawi means they have pretty much given up on installing anyone remotely ethical or decent, and have decided that if there is going to be a homocidal petit-Hilter in charge of Iraq, he might as well be our homocidal petit-Hilter.

Something about trains? (he says wryly).
Of course many "people" having been making the argument that at least things were "stable" and "contained" under SH. Maybe Jr.s figuring "can't beat 'em join 'em."? Better a Musharif than a Hussien if that's all you have to choose from?
 
I'm recalling a quote (as I'm want to do): In Theory, Theory and Practice are the same. In Practice they're not.
 
 


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   Posted 9/18/2007 4:32 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
MichaelEhart said...
I understand the reason why they were brought in, all paranoia aside. The LNG were mostly deployed in Iraq, and so they needed someone to take their place. Not the best decision, but in this case I think it was stupidity and greed rather than malice that lead to the decision.
Granted, although we've seen the inner cabal contains some who have combined greedy short-sightedness with malice quite effectively. :-)
 
Nathan, of course I've heard the conspiracy theories. FEMA's "performance" in that regard was almost disappointing; if they did make an attempt at imposing martial law, it would look more like Hogan's Heroes than The Turner Diaries.


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   Posted 9/18/2007 4:41 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dave Panchyk said...
Nathan, of course I've heard the conspiracy theories. FEMA's "performance" in that regard was almost disappointing; if they did make an attempt at imposing martial law, it would look more like Hogan's Heroes than The Turner Diaries.

It'd be rofl if it wasn't so cry .
 
The Turner Diaries? Are you even allowed to talk about that without lightning striking? Now the writing in that is so sad   that it is rofl


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   Posted 9/18/2007 4:46 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Isn't there a clause in Godwin's Law about the Turner Diaries?


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   Posted 9/18/2007 4:48 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Godwin is worse than Hitler. :-P


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   Posted 10/4/2007 2:50 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Interesting -- but not so surprising -- developments on the Hill re: the Blackwater case.
 


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