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 |  Pam Cat Wrangler

       Date Joined Nov 2004 Total Posts : 118 | Posted 6/4/2008 10:07 PM (GMT -4) |   | Just to chime in again about the revising process from suggested changes in the bar. In my case, there were line edits suggested that I have no problem making at all. The one change though, involves whether or not the girl is considered a "slave" in her position to the king. Well, it's not really stated if she is or isn't, but she does feel a slave to her calling/profession, and the endplot revolves around how the guy also feels a slave (to his sword .... hey, its a sword and sorcery story, what can I say), so therefore they understand and relate to each other. But E. said she'd like the story better if the girl wasn't a slave. Therefore, since she is a person in power, I feel like I should oblige her if I want the story to have a chance, but on the other hand, I totally disagree that it's even a major sticking point. It's hard to explain if you haven't read the story or her comment. I wasn't sure when I first asked if she was a power or just a writer who reads other stories. Since I didn't state anywhere in the story that she is a slave to the king, I don't see how I can take it out or change it. Ok, griping over with.
My main questions was answered long ago, about finding out who the readers/editors were. So thanks for that! The ultimate tragedy was not to die, but to have had life and let it slip through your hands, day by day, unused, until in the end it was gone, and you had learned nothing, given nothing, left no portion of grace or love in any soul. -- Anne Rice, Tathen, pg 9
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 |  David de Beer Neophyte

       Date Joined Mar 2007 Total Posts : 158 | Posted 6/5/2008 8:06 AM (GMT -4) |   | Edith is a good indicator of how on Baen-track a story is, but she's not the only editor and the slushies do disagree with one another.
A story might get passed up on majority vote, but it's also possible that a story gets passed up not unlike a book in a publishing house - because it has one champion among the editors who pleads a persuasive enough case that it's given a chance.
So, while Edith can be seen as a person in power, being a slush reader, it's still not quite as simple as accepting and making changes she suggests. There are more slush readers, some of them more silent than the others (except when they get togehter to talk about the stories, I guess, heh!), and they're tastes might be more aligned with what you write.
My advice is to take all the comments the same as you would with a normal critique group - compare them, see where the majority agreements&disagreements are, what the overall opinion is, and then decide yourself whether you agree or disagree with the crits.
If the critiques lead you to believe that there is room for improvement in your story, then re-write it, but because you prefer the re-write, not because someone else prefers it, because you think the story is stronger.
If all the critiques are in, and you still think the version of the story is right, then leave it for at least the 3 months and then come back to it if it hasn't been requested; send it to a couple of other markets and wait to hear what they say.
As I've said before, though, the best way to understand what the JBU wants is to read the JBU. The same as for any market.
Write the story and then see where it will fit; trying to tailor a story to a market's tastes isn't always that succesful.
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 |  tchernabyelo Acolyte
        Date Joined Oct 2006 Total Posts : 416 | Posted 6/5/2008 11:46 AM (GMT -4) |   | My one adventure at the bar netted precisely two comments.
One reader said the story was exquisite, another said it was "far too slow".
Unfortuinately, the "far too slow" was from Edith. Brian Dolton
Land Of Wind And Ghosts stories:
"The Box Of Beautiful Things" - IGMS#3
"The Man Who Was Never Afraid" - Abyss and Apex #20
"At Blue Crane Falls" - Abyss and Apex #25 "Where No Wind Blows" - Staffs & Starships #2
"The Gray World" - Every Day Fiction (June 1st 2008) "What The Sea Refuses" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"What The Heart Bears" - Black Gate (forthcoming)
"Above The Clouds" - Paper Blossoms, Sharpened Steel (forthcoming)
"Three Out Of Four" - Sorcerous Signals Feb-Apr 08
"The Dragon Path" - Fictitious Force #5
"The Last Arrow Of Liang Xi" - Darwin's Evolutions (forthcoming)
Stories in other settings:
"The Unicorn Hunter" - OG's Speculative Fiction #8
"Call Centre" - Necrotic Tissue #1
"When Winter Came" - ASIM #32
"Cold Fire" - Flashing Swords #9, The Age Of Blood And Snow (forthcoming)
"St. Saviour And The Devil's Dandy" - Flashing Swords (forthcoming)
"In This City" - Fantasy Magazine (forthcoming) | | Back to Top | | |
   |  J. Cheney Stablehand

       Date Joined Feb 2008 Total Posts : 32 | Posted 7/28/2008 8:41 AM (GMT -4) |   | | The RTF pile at Baen's is moving now. I've talked with two authors who received word of a sale yesterday. (Sunday) | | Back to Top | | |
    |  Saanen Neophyte

       Date Joined Apr 2007 Total Posts : 154 | Posted 8/1/2008 8:52 PM (GMT -4) |   | I didn't realize slush readers commented on stories. I just checked, and the only comment my story received back in June was from Edith. She made a few good points. Maybe I'll revise and repost. I should have read this thread a long time ago, obviously. :)
The Baen's Bar software is horrible, or maybe their server just can't handle the load or something. I had a terrible time getting my story to post. I kinda sorta like the idea of an open slush pile, but to make it really effective it seems like they should have a better interface for posting and reading. Kate Shaw
"Comparative Anatomy" Space Squid (forthcoming)
"Snow Magic" Fictitious Force (forthcoming)
"Newton the Baker's Boy" Strange Worlds of Lunacy, Residential Aliens/CrystalWizard Productions " Silent Skies" Byzarium (March 2008) "The King's Messenger" Renard's Menagerie #5 "Honeymoon" Desolate Places, Hadley Rille Books " Sawmill Road," " Bad Luck," " How My Sister Lost the Game," " Sick Day" Every Day Fiction"Trompe L'Oeil" Staffs & Starships #1 "Sea and Sky" Black Dragon, White Dragon, Ricasso Press "Final Episode" and "Night Court" available on AnthologyBuilder.com | | Back to Top | | |
  |  Jason T Acolyte

       Date Joined Aug 2006 Total Posts : 313 | Posted 8/6/2008 7:40 AM (GMT -4) |   | Jaqhama,
I think they are currently closed to submissions, but when they re-open if you want to avoid the bar slush conference, on the submission page they have a link to a submission form. Click the link, enter in some very basic info, then attach your story file using the browse option and submit. Very easy and returns an auto-responder to let you know they got it, with a link to let you follow your story's progress through slush.
"Mortismagus" in Magic and Mechanica, Ricasso Press Forthcoming 2008
"The Gift of the Unspoken God," in The Infinity Swords, Carnivah House > >, Forthcoming 2008
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