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Lyn
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erazmus
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Lyn
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MichaelEhart
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| Posted 3/12/2008 4:17 PM (GMT -4) | | Wrong Mike, I know, but PA is every bit as bad as they are painted.
Check this out: http://sfwa.org/members/TravisTea/
Atlanta Nights was a scam book put together by a group of SFWA members and sent to PA. They accepted it, in spite of deliberately foul grammar, hundreds of malapropisms, missing chapters, characters changing genders from chapter to chapter, one chapter repeated, and another written entirely by a random text generator. "The world is full of bad books written by amateurs. But why settle for the merely regrettable? Atlanta Nights is a bad book written by experts." — T. Nielsen Hayden" hayden, BTW is one of the other people named in the suit.
If you go to the gallery on the travis tea site, and click on the picture captioned "The audience is rolling in the aisles" I am the handsome devil in the middle, between Mike Shepard Moscoe and Bill Yates.
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erazmus
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| Posted 3/12/2008 4:29 PM (GMT -4) | | I mean that sooner or later the scam artist they go after have to strike back. If you out a lawyer for questionable practices to his bar association, he _has_ to sue you, to maintain the appearance of no wrong doing while his Bar association considers the complaint and afterward, even and especially if he loses.
SAme if you warn people about a fraudulent agency. Unless they want to pack up and change the name ahead of the DA's complaint, they have to defend themselves and their right to bilk people out of money, and sueing the people calling them scam artist is a major step in that. Never mind that they are clearly crooks. Even if convicted they will sue to bolster their appeal and of course, mostly to intimidate the whistle blowers into leaving them alone, as in this case. The defence against the suite may be childsplay, but it isn't going to be cheap. If the defendants can't or don't get a lawyer into the courtroom to defend them, the plantiff will win by default. The civil case will spin out for years, as a tactic to drain resources and enthusiasm from the defendants.
Mike
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Jordan Lapp
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| Posted 3/12/2008 4:52 PM (GMT -4) | |
MichaelEhart said...Wrong Mike, I know, but PA is every bit as bad as they are painted. Check this out: http://sfwa.org/members/TravisTea/ Atlanta Nights was a scam book put together by a group of SFWA members and sent to PA. They accepted it, in spite of deliberately foul grammar, hundreds of malapropisms, missing chapters, characters changing genders from chapter to chapter, one chapter repeated, and another written entirely by a random text generator. "The world is full of bad books written by amateurs. But why settle for the merely regrettable? Atlanta Nights is a bad book written by experts." — T. Nielsen Hayden" hayden, BTW is one of the other people named in the suit. If you go to the gallery on the travis tea site, and click on the picture captioned "The audience is rolling in the aisles" I am the handsome devil in the middle, between Mike Shepard Moscoe and Bill Yates.
Just for those who missed it (because Lord knows, I did at first), "TravisTea" is itself a play on words for "travesty".
Jordan Lapp
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erazmus
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erazmus
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crystalwizard
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| Posted 3/12/2008 6:02 PM (GMT -4) | | Jordan, they're going to lose.
They're also going to have to sue most of the internet. Go do a google on Publish America and you'll find the same warning being shouted from thousands of places.
Lawsuits aren't cheap and at some point this is going to start draining their resources to the point that they can't continue. All this suit is doing is damaging their reputation further in the eyes of every single person who finds out about it. | | Back to Top | | |
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crystalwizard
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Lyn
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Jaqhama
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| Posted 3/30/2008 8:31 AM (GMT -4) | |
erazmus said...My name is Michael D. Turner I live at 2222 Sumter Dr. Colorado Springs, Colorado I will not live in fear of scum or their lawyers. And I stand behind any statements I have made on these or any other board on the web, or anywhere else, provided I actually made the statement. Mike
Mike I'm impressed that you'll put your money where your mouth is. 
Few people will these days.
Good for you old son!
I know the story about Publish America and those authors who wrote that crap, but highly amusing novel.
I know PA reckons they read and validate every novel they publish. They say so themselves on their website do they not?
Guess that one novel must have slipped past them somehow? 
Or something. 
You can read some of my stories here:
Swamp Story. Down South. Florida Haze.Wild Justice...
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erazmus
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