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   Posted 11/28/2007 1:14 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bill Ward said...
it'd be great to have a talented fantasy writer submit a bit of adventure fiction to Dragon


They wouldn't publish it. Pretty much anything that goes into any gaming mag has to tie in with the games they publish, even the stories. Worked in that industry far too long.

That line of demarcation is already drawn, and has been for years.
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   Posted 11/28/2007 1:05 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well, it's apples and oranges, like Scalzi's suggestion writers were better off submiting to Realms, F&SF, etc. at the same price point -- that's like telling a rock'n'roller they're better off playing in the symphony -- different market needs, different audience, different skill sets. No one actually thinks Dragon Magazine and Realms of Fantasy publish anything like the same kind of fiction, do they? Scalzi seemed to.

From the perspective of a lot of people that want to have a career in the world of RPG products and freelance work the work-for-hire thing is standard, and a sale to Dragon magazine might actually get them noticed in that industry in a way a sale to a short fiction SF or Fantasy mag just can't do in the world of big publishing. Plus, my guess is a lot of the content of these stories, like characters, settings, etc., would be trademarked material, like fan fic, and this way I suppose the corporate guys can open up the world for people to play in without worrying about lawsuits.

The bad thing is it basically demarcates the borders of RPG world and commercial fiction world, as you aren't going to see talented people from the world of traditional publishing submitting material, you'll just have an rpg ghetto with the same names over and over again and no influx from writers outside. I think that aspect of it is a real shame, as it'd be great to have a talented fantasy writer submit a bit of adventure fiction to Dragon -- whose audience are probably big fans of non-licensed products from names like Jordan, Gemmell, Martin, Williams, etc. My guess is the fiction will have to be there to sell product anyway, so anything outside the narrow confines of the game world and the mechanics of D&D probably isn't going to find its way into the game's house organ. It isn't an independently run magazine anymore, but part of the WoTC product line.


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   Posted 11/28/2007 12:59 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Personally, I don't think you should ever sell all rights to anything you create.

 

 
 
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   Posted 11/28/2007 12:59 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dragon is now published by Wizard's of the Coast. It's changed a lot since the days when TSR published it.

I'm curious, folks. Dragon pretty much publishes the stuff that appeals to people that play AD&D. So which of you is going to write something like that then seriously want to hang on to the rights to say, an audio drama? Have you looked at what goes into the magazine? I'd have no problem giving them the rights, because I don't think I'd even want to try to market anything I'd sell them anywhere else.
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   Posted 11/28/2007 12:49 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
  Yes, I remember Dragon...but it's been many years since I paid any attention to it.
  I concur with your above statement, though. 3-6 cents, perhaps...if the circumstances were different. I'm not keen on selling all rights to anyone(in regard to original material), the exception being if I write the piece specifically for a given party/publication.
  Perhaps I'm just exceptionally stingy with my rights, though.
 


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   Posted 11/28/2007 12:33 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
was pointed to this article today and thought I'd pass it along -
 
 
3-6 cents a word - not so bad, giving all rights for 3-6 cents per word seems way out of line.
 
 
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